Yes, I am furloughed TSA.
1) This is only partially correct, and a self serving to your side of the argument. Mainline guys in many cases did not want the 50 seat flying and willingly let it go and now everybody in the industry regrets it. Had the pilots cared enough about what was happening, scope would have been amended to prevent it from happening anymore after the first airline did it.

2) I'm all for that but again, the major guys weren't fighting to prevent the regionals from being created only to have management screw them by loopholes in a weak scope clause. That makes the difference in the situations enormous.

3) Pretty sure this is the same argument the 3rd time. The only way to fix that is for every regional pilot to quit at the same time and for nobody else to take a regional job. I'd be willing to do it if everybody else would too. The problem is that the regionals are one of a fairly small number of ways to get to the majors and to change that, we'd all have to quit on the same day or week or whatever.

Ok, I will tell you how GoJetS is screwing over TSA. TSA was supposed to get 70 seat aircraft but the pilot group elected to try to better the industry and would not take whatever Hulas would give them. As a result, Hulas said screw you, I'm gonna weasel my way through the scope clause in the contract and make an alter-ego airline (you can't possibly disagree that it is an alter-ego airline). That alter-ego airline then went ahead and hired pilots at a lesser rate than the TSA pilots were willing to take. If no pilots were willing to go to said alter-ego, then management would have no choice but to give in to the TSA pilots. Because desperate pilots elected to go to GoJetS and continue to go there, they are continuing to show Hulas that he can whipsaw the crap out of us. If pilots were unwilling to go there, TSA might actually end up with the 70-seat flying on a merged seniority list by hire date or some other acceptable method. As it stands right now, TSA pilots are still on the street and GoJetS is hiring. The key point here though, is that GoJetS was created for the specific purpose of circumventing a pilot group that was trying to do the right thing.

As for you saying that I have refused to appeal, I'm not sure what you're talking about. I never refused to do anything. I think there should have been an appeal a long time ago. Just because the legal system did not work in the TSA pilots' favor does not make it suddenly ok for people to continue to undermine the pilot group.

If anybody's arguments are self-serving, I'm fairly sure it's yours.

This post is almost too clueless to respond to but I'll try to make it short and simple. RAH was not created as an alter-ego airline. RAH pilots did not knowingly apply to an alter-ego airline. There is a huge difference in a management group that is to blame and a pilot group that is to blame. You can be upset with RAH management all you want. The pilots didn't have anything to do with these decisions. At GoJetS, the pilots are just as much to blame as management.

The TSA contract has been amendable for somewhere around 3 years I believe. We've been in arbitration for somewhere around 2 years. It's not lack of effort among the pilot group that has caused us not to have a new contract yet and I guarantee scope will be a pretty huge issue on this contract. The union has opened up a strike center and hopefully with the new administration, we will be allowed to strike sometime soon. I'm currently in training at my new airline so I am most likely done Waterskiing but I support everybody there completely. They are a great group of pilots.

 

I'm at Gojet and it's been OK. Reserve sucks but it's the same anywhere. The last two classes were ATA, furloughed UA (like me), Midex, TSA (2 in my class, 2 in the last class and a few in the current class) and Airtran people. I think out of 20, there were only 2 low time pilots. The Airtran guys have all gone back so they will be hiring more. Classes of 20 pilots per month for the near future.

Good equiptment (new airplanes), lineholders are 85 to 90 hours with 15 days off. Most of the guys/girls are ATA and other high time furloughees just trying to stay current until the the industry turns.

Most of the Mx guys are furloughed UA as well so thats not bad either.

As far as jumpseat, I have had NO PROBLEMS whatsoever. I look forward to the day some 20 year old gives me lip...ought to be interesting!

Overall, not a place to spend a carrer but not so bad for a little while. I'm glad we have the LOA at UA for flowbacks.

 

Don't worry, they have to be at least 23 before their lip really matters.

 

PLEASE jumpseat on my airplane. PLEASE. What's going to happen if someone does give you lip? Are we going to meet at the flagpole outside O'Hare at noon? I'll just deny you and send you on your merry, backstabbing way. Unless of course you sneak on, which has happened to me more than once...if you guys don't have problems jumpseating, why do you hide your ID and say your work for Trans States Airlines? Just wondering, I mean, if working for GJ is ok now and everything...

 

Now Where:

How was the training and how did you guys paid for your hotels during training? Did you had to pair up with someone to save some $$$

Also, how long is the training? Peace to you!

 

Must be nice flying for an airline where everyone is on stby waiting to get their recall date. What company loyalty you guys must have at GJ. I'm going to take a wild guess when the industry picks up again there's going to be mass exodus and they'll be back to hiring wet commercial and pt135 street CAs that have never been in a jet cockpit.

 

TSA(gj) pays an allowance after you complete your IOE, like $800. You're going to have to pay for your own hotel or crashpad during training. Enjoy.

 

Stay classy, even on furlough, and G7 sure the hell 'aint classy...

 

Says the twenty something know it all

 

Gee, I hope so!