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Old 02-12-2012 | 04:53 PM
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I have decided to try my hand at long range precision shooting, and have made this purchase to build from. The base is a Remmy 700P LTR (police light tactical rifle) .308 winny with 20" fluted hvy bbl, and I have a bi pod and 10-40X50mm illuminated scope on the way. As a primarily pistol and carbine shooter taking on the Long range challenge is going to be a lot of fun, I think. I will post more as I get her built out.

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Old 02-12-2012 | 05:02 PM
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What kind of scope? 10-40x50 is an unusual magnification range...
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Old 02-12-2012 | 05:03 PM
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And oh yeah, here's my LR stick:



Savage 10FP, 26" Criterion 260 Remington barrel
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Bushnell Elite 4200 Tactical 6-24x50 FFP
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Old 02-12-2012 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
What kind of scope? 10-40x50 is an unusual magnification range...
Firefield, I dont know how it will work out, but the price was right. I am still new to his whole Long range thing so I am sure the learning curve will be very steep. I based my decision on some articles I read, for entry level affordable glass. I figured I can always go to a 6-24x50 if it becomes necessary. I almost ordered a 8-32x50 instead, but decided to go a bit higher. Guess time will tell. Any advice, and nice weapon, I've always loved hvy bbl's.

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Old 02-12-2012 | 05:37 PM
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Advice #1 - join Sniper's Hide yesterday and do a LOT of reading.

Advice #2 - Return that Firefield as soon as it arrives, and put those funds toward better glass.

Here's why: for long range shooting, you want the very best optics you can afford because you can't hit what you can't see...and seeing the target takes a lot more than magnification. A high magnification, cheap ($100) optic is going to have crappy lenses, poor light transmission, a small eyebox and FAR too little elevation adjustment. The scope you bought, according to Amazon, has 1/4 MOA adjustments and "72 clicks of locking windage and elevation adjustment". That means only 18 MOA of elevation.

Assuming you are able to get a 100yd zero smack in the middle of your available elevation (unlikely), you are only going to have 9 MOA of elevation left...which will barely get M118LR spec ammo (175 Sierra Matchking @ 2600fps) to 400 yards.

I am a magnification ***** myself, I had a Bushnell 4200 8-32x40 at one time and loved it...but you can have too much magnification and put yourself into a world of hurt with mirage and clarity. I like my 6x24 but it can be a bit much at times, and really, my next optic will probably be a 3-12x because that's more than enough for hitting a MOA-size piece of steel (or a man) out to 1000yd.

Good "budget" scope options: SWFA SS 10x42 or 16x42, Bushnell 3200 10x40 mil/mil, Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x40 or 6-18x40, Weaver Grand Slam Tactical 3-10x40 (I have one of these and LOVE it), Mueller Tactical, or Millett TRS. You can buy new on places like Midway, or buy used on places like 24hourcampfire, TheHighRoad, or SnipersHide.

Literally hundreds of folks run the SWFA 10x42 or Bushnell 10x on Remington 700s and Savage 10/110s to very good effect...
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Old 02-12-2012 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Advice #1 - join Sniper's Hide yesterday and do a LOT of reading.

Advice #2 - Return that Firefield as soon as it arrives, and put those funds toward better glass.

Here's why: for long range shooting, you want the very best optics you can afford because you can't hit what you can't see...and seeing the target takes a lot more than magnification. A high magnification, cheap ($100) optic is going to have crappy lenses, poor light transmission, a small eyebox and FAR too little elevation adjustment. The scope you bought, according to Amazon, has 1/4 MOA adjustments and "72 clicks of locking windage and elevation adjustment". That means only 18 MOA of elevation.

Assuming you are able to get a 100yd zero smack in the middle of your available elevation (unlikely), you are only going to have 9 MOA of elevation left...which will barely get M118LR spec ammo (175 Sierra Matchking @ 2600fps) to 400 yards.

I am a magnification ***** myself, I had a Bushnell 4200 8-32x40 at one time and loved it...but you can have too much magnification and put yourself into a world of hurt with mirage and clarity. I like my 6x24 but it can be a bit much at times, and really, my next optic will probably be a 3-12x because that's more than enough for hitting a MOA-size piece of steel (or a man) out to 1000yd.

Good "budget" scope options: SWFA SS 10x42 or 16x42, Bushnell 3200 10x40 mil/mil, Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x40 or 6-18x40, Weaver Grand Slam Tactical 3-10x40 (I have one of these and LOVE it), Mueller Tactical, or Millett TRS. You can buy new on places like Midway, or buy used on places like 24hourcampfire, TheHighRoad, or SnipersHide.

Literally hundreds of folks run the SWFA 10x42 or Bushnell 10x on Remington 700s and Savage 10/110s to very good effect...
Thanks all good stuff, and I appreciate the advice. I still have a lot more to learn for sure.
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Old 02-14-2012 | 06:37 AM
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Jungle..thats sweet. What cal.? 10/22?
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