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Old 05-05-2012, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
No, he's LAX. I've flown with him in the past and it was bad. This time, it's intolerable. How do we block CAs again? I've never done it but I'm not flying with this guy again.

Buzz, when you go to bid, you use;

"Avoid Employee Number XXXXXX"

That should do it.

Good luck!
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Old 05-05-2012, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Buzz, when you go to bid, you use;

"Avoid Employee Number XXXXXX"

That should do it.

Good luck!
Thanks Timbo! I get along in the cockpit with everybody and have never felt like this in 32 years of flying. I'm late to this party apparently.
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Old 05-05-2012, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Thanks Timbo! I get along in the cockpit with everybody and have never felt like this in 32 years of flying. I'm late to this party apparently.
Sounds like he's a graduate:



Wind check? Oh.. wait.
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Old 05-05-2012, 09:40 PM
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Just click on the Avoid tab first, then scan down the list of stuff, click "Employee number" then add his, you may want to put him in your defaults as well, just in case you forget to bid one month.

The downside is, if he gets a great trip you also wanted...you won't get it, the upside is, you'll fly "Tool Free" on a bad trip.

I've found a Tool can ruin the best of trips, and a good guy can make you have fun on any piece of crap trip.

As I've said countless times; It's an easy job, yet some guys work so hard at Pucking it up.

It's supposed to be fun, right?
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Old 05-05-2012, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Just click on the Avoid tab first, then scan down the list of stuff, click "Employee number" then add his, you may want to put him in your defaults as well, just in case you forget to bid one month.

The downside is, if he gets a great trip you also wanted...you won't get it, the upside is, you'll fly "Tool Free" on a bad trip.

I've found a Tool can ruin the best of trips, and a good guy can make you have fun on any piece of crap trip.

As I've said countless times; It's an easy job, yet some guys work so hard at Pucking it up.

It's supposed to be fun, right?
Exactly. I actually picked this trip up because it was a good one and the rumor was he had been "rehabilitated." if anything, his tool quotient went off scale high. CRM is a non-starter with this guy. It's embarrassing to team with him AND be belittled at the same time that your bailing his bacon out of the fire when he screws up. If I could regale you with stories, I would. I just want out.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:01 PM
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You may want to consider a phone call to Tool's Anonymous (Pro. Standards), you are most likely not alone in your assesment, and that's probably why that good trip (with him on it) was in open time in the first place! At least you'll have a 'paper trail' if you do get stuck flying with him again sometime, and elect to get off the trip, or sick out of it.

Western used to keep a "No Fly" list, where all crew members could put down others they refused to fly with. This was good for two reasons; the obvious being if all the other crew members are putting in the same name, well, that guy needs an attitude adjustment.

BUT...if one crew member had half the base listed as "No Fly" then they knew who the problem child really was!
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
You may want to consider a phone call to Tool's Anonymous (Pro. Standards), you are most likely not alone in your assesment, and that's probably why that trip (with him on it) was in open time in the first place! At least you'll have a 'paper trail' if you do get stuck flying with him sometime, and elect to get off the trip, or sick out of it.

Western used to keep a "No Fly" list, where all crew members could put down others they refused to fly with. This was good for two reasons; the obvious being if all the other crew members are putting in the same name, well, that guy needs an attitude adjustment.

BUT...if one crew member had half the base listed as "No Fly" then they knew who the problem child really was!
I'll do it. I asked him who he'd been flying with recently and they were all reserve guys from other bases. I asked him why he thought that was. His response, "guys don't want to fly with me." I asked, "why do you think that is?" His response, "I don't know."

I do.
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:12 PM
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I'll second Timbo.

Pro standards is the first element of escalation for a tool, and I've only called pro standards about one guy I've ever flown with.

I can deal with toolbags, douches, and whatever else... but I can't deal with an unsafe toolbag douche. Not to mention, I was paired with the guy for the whole month. I've never had to say to someone "sorry, but I will not call for takeoff clearance until we have configured the airplane properly" until this guy.

I heard he got fired about 5 months later for other issues. He had made a bunch of money in the dot com boom and decided to be an airline pilot. Southwest was his absolute goal. He did everything he could to do to act like WN would do in any given situation (in his mind). I had never heard the nose wheel tire squeal on a CRJ before him. He knew WN liked to taxi fast, so he did. He knew they liked to "think outside the box," so he did. He "knew" they wouldn't write things up, so he wouldn't.

Whew...
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Old 05-05-2012, 10:23 PM
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[QUOTE=80ktsClamp;1182691]I'll second Timbo.

Pro standards is the first element of escalation for a tool, and I've only called pro standards about one guy I've ever flown with.

I can deal with toolbags, douches, and whatever else... but I can't deal with an unsafe toolbag douche. Not to mention, I was paired with the guy for the whole month. I've never had to say to someone "sorry, but I will not call for takeoff clearance until we have configured the airplane properly" until this guy.

I heard he got fired about 5 months later for other issues. He had made a bunch of money in the dot com boom and decided to be an airline pilot. Southwest was his absolute goal and he did everything he could to do what he felt WN would do in any given situation. I had never heard the nose wheel tire squeal on a CRJ before him. He knew WN liked to taxi fast, so he did. He knew they liked to "think outside the box," so he did.

Whew..

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Old 05-06-2012, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
No, he's LAX. I've flown with him in the past and it was bad. This time, it's intolerable. How do we block CAs again? I've never done it but I'm not flying with this guy again.
What's the deal?
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