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07-26-2012, 10:44 PM

#2041

expectholding

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You've obviously never flown around the third world or non-radar in places where radios, english and tap water are all suspect. Enjoy the Sioux Falls overnight.

You're right. I have flown in 3rd would countries. And it's necessary there. I assumed we were talking about here, where it's not necessary, much like the FSD comment. Tool.

07-26-2012, 11:33 PM

#2042

DeadHead

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Originally Posted by throttleweenie

Plain English is fine. Plane English is obnoxious. Thanks for the heads-up on check-in protocol

Personally I can barely tell or hear a difference between five/fife or three/tree....never really wasted enough grey matter trying to pick apart the verbiage while laneling the communicator as a tool.

As an FO, it's particularly annoying when you fly with a captain one week who gives you the old eye roll for saying fife/tree/niner, and then fly with another captain a week later who gives you the same old eye roll for not saying that way.

I imagine the guys who pinch a loaf with the way you say the numbers 3-5-9 in an ATC transmission probably have a problem with the way their first officers do everything else.

Last edited by DeadHead; 07-26-2012 at 11:56 PM.

07-27-2012, 03:20 AM

#2043

Readback

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Originally Posted by DeadHead

.....As an FO, it's particularly annoying when you fly with a captain one week who gives you the old eye roll for saying fife/tree/niner, and then fly with another captain a week later who gives you the same old eye roll for not saying that way.....

I would submit that the captains who give you "the old eye roll for saying fife/tree/niner" are demonstrating their ignorance and are, in fact, the tools!

07-27-2012, 05:22 AM

#2044

Doug Masters

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Captains, while wearing long sleeves and their "pilot standards" lanyard start the brief by saying "I'm pretty laid back and do everything standard." Oh boy, gonna be one those trips...happy place happy place...

07-27-2012, 07:45 AM

#2045

gloopy

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Originally Posted by Doug Masters

I've never worn long sleeves because I don't like them, but what's the rage against them? We drop lile flies from melanoma compared to the general population yet anyone daring to wear sleeves is taken to task for it for no real reason. What gives?

07-27-2012, 08:10 AM

#2046

Columbia

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Originally Posted by gloopy

Long sleeves certainly look more professional with a tie.

07-27-2012, 08:22 AM

#2047

Timbo

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Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .

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Originally Posted by gloopy

I wore them....when I was based in BOS, flying to YUL and ORD in the winter, I was going to be doing walk arounds in the snow. But after that (cold) base was closed, I moved to FL and now fly mostly to places at or near to the equator (HKG, SIN, DXB) so I'm soaking wet on a walk around, even in short sleeves.

I know of only one guy who wears long sleeves, year round, to ward off radiation, per his doctors orders, he's had some skin issues. It's probably a good idea, but just too hot for me on most of my trips, even in January.

Maybe we can get Columbia to make up some of those light weight, long sleeved fishing shirts, with epaulettes, to keep the sun off and keep cool too.

07-27-2012, 09:11 AM

#2048

Left Handed

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Originally Posted by Doug Masters

When I get those guys, I take my book out of my bag and give it a quick read, cause that's the last time I will see 'standard' for that trip.

When someone has to tell you they're laid back that's a big red flag.

07-27-2012, 09:20 AM

#2049

ShyGuy

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Originally Posted by FLowpayFO

Does DTW count as third world?

Huh? How's DTW third-world? DTW tracon and tower are probably the best, most predictable, easy flow type operation I've seen. Sure, a 23 mile final sucks. But it sure as hell beats GDPs and 1 hr holds.