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08-08-2012, 07:05 PM
#2301
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Express Jet CA to another regional pilot - "When you guys came to EWR you took our flying, but now you all are going out of business we get our flying back."
Im sure United guys would love to hear its "your" flying.
And he said this being in United 767 jumpseat, but they didnt hear what he said.
Im sure United guys would love to hear its "your" flying.
And he said this being in United 767 jumpseat, but they didnt hear what he said.
08-08-2012, 08:08 PM
#2302
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Posts: 106
Sometimes the heading bug thing can be more than just an irritating tic, it can be downright distracting. I was pilot-flying, autopilot on, in LNAV mode. We were in a turn and just given a climb. I began to reach over to turn the VS knob to initiate the climb, when the FO reached across my arm, blocking my access to the VS knob, so he could twist the heading knob. I'm trying to make the aircraft climb, and this guy insists on turning the heading knob, which, in LNAV mode will accomplish exactly...nothing.
08-08-2012, 08:11 PM
#2303
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: Doing what you do, for less.
Posts: 1,792
The pilot of this airplane, who operates it well in excess of its performance capabilities (looks like overweight, high density altitude, or both) and, luckily, doesn't kill everyone when he crashes it.
LiveLeak.com - (Must Watch!!) Plane crash video from inside cockpit
LiveLeak.com - (Must Watch!!) Plane crash video from inside cockpit
08-08-2012, 08:17 PM
#2304
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
Originally Posted by groundstop
I always set the heading bug off a couple degrees on the first leg of the trip to see if the guy is an air force guy, etc.
08-08-2012, 08:53 PM
#2305
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A320
Posts: 1,347
Originally Posted by lolwut
The pilot of this airplane, who operates it well in excess of its performance capabilities (looks like overweight, high density altitude, or both) and, luckily, doesn't kill everyone when he crashes it.
LiveLeak.com - (Must Watch!!) Plane crash video from inside cockpit
LiveLeak.com - (Must Watch!!) Plane crash video from inside cockpit
1) Find the Pilot Operating Handbook for that plane
2) Place it in front of that pilot's face
3) Punch my fist through it
08-08-2012, 11:33 PM
#2306
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: Frenchy plane/ Left
Posts: 338
I think I read this somewhere on this site, but it's worth repeating. Harken back to the "old" days of ded-rekoning and celestial nav.
On a long haul flight, Navigator requests Captain come left 1 degree to maintain proper course. Captain berates navigator, "damn it man, there's no way one degree is going to make a difference - you can't be that accurate, only give me turns of more than 3 degrees". Navigator sheepishly replies, Yes Sir.
10 minutes later navigator requests captain turn left 8 degrees. Captain replies - Now that's more like it!
10 minutes later navigator requests Captain come right 7 degrees.
On a long haul flight, Navigator requests Captain come left 1 degree to maintain proper course. Captain berates navigator, "damn it man, there's no way one degree is going to make a difference - you can't be that accurate, only give me turns of more than 3 degrees". Navigator sheepishly replies, Yes Sir.
10 minutes later navigator requests captain turn left 8 degrees. Captain replies - Now that's more like it!
10 minutes later navigator requests Captain come right 7 degrees.
08-09-2012, 12:35 AM
#2307
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,912
Originally Posted by Mephesto
I'm trying to make the aircraft climb, and this guy insists on turning the heading knob, which, in LNAV mode will accomplish exactly...nothing.
Junior is……
Choice 1...downright anal
Choice 2...a child of the magenta line
Choice 3...Captain Microsoft to the rescue
And no folks you can relax… this is not a Jet Blue Psyche Evaluation.
08-09-2012, 04:21 AM
#2309
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,919
Originally Posted by lolwut
The pilot of this airplane, who operates it well in excess of its performance capabilities (looks like overweight, high density altitude, or both) and, luckily, doesn't kill everyone when he crashes it.
LiveLeak.com - (Must Watch!!) Plane crash video from inside cockpit
LiveLeak.com - (Must Watch!!) Plane crash video from inside cockpit
Did you read the description above the video, they claim it was due to hitting an air pocket shortly after takeoff.
They are all extremely lucky to be alive.
Graphic clip, but would be a great resource to demonstrate the dangers of poor performance planning.
08-09-2012, 05:49 AM
#2310
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Position: Precarious
Posts: 378
Somewhere around half a mile down the runway there was a voice in the back of that guys head that said "this looks bad, I should abort." Next to that voice was a louder one that said something like "no, an abort would be really embarrassing, I promised these guys a ride". After they struggled into the air, the first voice said "this is not working, let's land in that clearing to the right." The second voice still over ruled. How many chances does a guy need?
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