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Old 03-06-2010 | 11:39 AM
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Is it any bust or 121 busts?
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Old 03-06-2010 | 11:45 AM
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Let me be a little more clear, I think they are most worried about you having any failure in the 121 environment because of 3407. They brought up the subject on more that one occasion. If you have a failure from something like a CFI ride, I don't think that is as crutial, unless you have multiple pink slips.

I also do not believe a failed stage check in 141 counts as it is not on your permanent FAA records.
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Old 03-06-2010 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PikeAV8R
With all the talk about busted check rides for 121 carriers, I was curious, part of the paperwork asked about any unsatisfactory training experiences or checks. I went to a part 141 school and had a few "stage checks" or "phase checks", but none resulted in any FAA pink slip or notification, I have cleared several years of 121 check rides since, do these need to be reported and do they matter? I have heard several peoples different opinions about if I should disclose them or not. Any Ideas?

You are not required to report those, as even the FAA can't get that information. It's like your school transcripts.
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Old 03-06-2010 | 12:09 PM
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Let me be a little more clear, I think they are most worried about you having any failure in the 121 environment because of 3407. They brought up the subject on more that one occasion. If you have a failure from something like a CFI ride, I don't think that is as crutial, unless you have multiple pink slips.

I also do not believe a failed stage check in 141 counts as it is not on your permanent FAA records.
Correct. If you got one or maybe two busts during your initial, you might be ok, but I know someone who had 3 busts during primary training that was send home. I'm guessing if you got 3 or more lines filled on that disclosure sheet, you probably won't make it very far, no matter how you're going to explain it. Ealge and most other regionals are cracking down on this 3407 deal now.

Just because you have a couple of busts doesn't make you a bad pilot, but the regionals are shaking and cracking down right now and want guys with clean records. That's just the way it is.
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Old 03-06-2010 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Forman
Let me be a little more clear, I think they are most worried about you having any failure in the 121 environment because of 3407. They brought up the subject on more that one occasion. If you have a failure from something like a CFI ride, I don't think that is as crutial, unless you have multiple pink slips.
Good to know. I have a clean record (including 121) besides the fact that I busted my CFI initial. I would never hide that fact and to be honest (which I will be with them), it was just a major brain fart on my part in the oral so the fault was all mine.

I'm hoping you're right about that and after all, it was a looong time ago when I was a relatively new pilot compared to my experience nowadays.
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Old 03-06-2010 | 01:59 PM
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Airline Apps has the application working properly once again. Read their new questions very carefully.
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Old 03-06-2010 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jedinein
Airline Apps has the application working properly once again. Read their new questions very carefully.
You mean it hasn't been working properly? What new questions are you referring to. When I validate my app against the companies it says that I meet all the requirements. It says my app has been published to the targeted companies that I have chosen.
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Old 03-06-2010 | 06:10 PM
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But from what I remember, there was no space on AirlineApps to disclose or list failed checkrides, so they are wasting time and money by bringing in those people.
There is now. They changed the Addendum to include a flight history disclosure. The second question, asks about failed checkrides. They also added a Bachelor's degree to the requirements when you "compare the app". Both of those updates are very recent.
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Old 03-07-2010 | 10:28 AM
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There is now. They changed the Addendum to include a flight history disclosure. The second question, asks about failed checkrides. They also added a Bachelor's degree to the requirements when you "compare the app". Both of those updates are very recent.
I don't see what you're talking about. They have an education requirement "check mark" on the compare my app page. I don't see anything about it being a bachelors degree. This is taken straight from airline apps today.

American Eagle’s qualifications are as follows:

Commercial Pilots Certification with multi-engine and instrument ratings
Total Fixed wing of 1000 hours preferred
Multi-engine fixed wing time of 200 hours preferred
A current flying job (12 month experience)
Current FAA First Class Medical
IFR Currency
FCC License
Possess the ability to work in the US
Possess the ability to travel in and out of the US to all cities/countries served by
American Eagle
Ability to relocate
Ability to work weekends, nights, shifts, holidays, and overnight trips
Minimum age 21
* Flight time requirements are commensurate with experience

The following preferred requirements are common amongst Eagle’s most successful applicants:
Actual instrument time to be 10% of total time
Six months experience with a Part 121 or Part 135 operation
ATP Certificate or successful completion of valid ATP written test
Hours flown in most recent 12 months to exceed 100 hours
Fixed wing multi-engine turboprop experience
College Degree
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Old 03-07-2010 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by dh05z28
This is taken straight from airline apps today.

American Eagle’s qualifications are as follows:

Commercial Pilots Certification with multi-engine and instrument ratings
Total Fixed wing of 1000 hours preferred
Multi-engine fixed wing time of 200 hours preferred
A current flying job (12 month experience)
Current FAA First Class Medical
IFR Currency
FCC License
Possess the ability to work in the US
Possess the ability to travel in and out of the US to all cities/countries served by
American Eagle
Ability to relocate
Ability to work weekends, nights, shifts, holidays, and overnight trips
Minimum age 21
* Flight time requirements are commensurate with experience

The following preferred requirements are common amongst Eagle’s most successful applicants:
Actual instrument time to be 10% of total time
Six months experience with a Part 121 or Part 135 operation
ATP Certificate or successful completion of valid ATP written test
Hours flown in most recent 12 months to exceed 100 hours
Fixed wing multi-engine turboprop experience
College Degree
Theoretically you don't need one if I'm reading this correctly it just says they prefer you to have one
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