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Old 01-09-2010 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRedBaron1967
I have a buddy at AE who is a very senior FO. I am furloughed from Chq and will be in the next RAH recall class in all likelihood. My buddy seems to think AE is the way to go over RAH. I can see advantages to both. RAH has lots of newer desirous Ac and are making all kinds of strategic moves. (I realize there are some who hate RAH for it. I am not a fan of many of the things Mgmt. has done but I don't, nor do any of our pilots, have any say in it and yes we are working on a leading contract to get better pay, work rules and to stop the kind of BS that allowed them to shove the EMB190s down our throat. All of that BS aside) AE has more "stable" base options for now and better pay but they are loosing their contract soon and their EMBs are becoming obsolete with the seat/mile cost and all (obviously Chqs 135,40 and45 are too). I mention that because AEs has a large percentage of that Ac. Both AE and Chq will have to adjust for that in short order to remain competitive.

Also, I am a middle aged man or an old fart to many on here, I really don't want to sit "ready reserve". I would rather spend my reserve time on the golf course or somewhere else close by. I also can't deal with going to SJU.

All that aside if AE weathers the storm of the contract issues and deals with some equipment issues, (which they are starting to do with the CRJs I guess?) AE could be a great place to work over the long haul. Man I wish I had a crystal ball.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Please, if your the type to flame go to another thread to do it. I am trying to make a career decision here and am trying to stay positive. Pilots bashing pilots is like football players griping at other football players for the play the coaches call.

Any suggestions? Are there any other + or - that I am missing?

Thanks and fly safe guys.
I was a senior-ish FO at Eagle before I quit in 2007 (6.5 years). I back in 2006, I was weighing options and I interviewed and was offered a job at Republic. I ultimately passed on it, as I thought things were going to turn around in good time at Eagle with the flowbacks possibly getting recalled to AA.

That was a foolish mistake on my part. I completely disagree with your friend. I think Republic is by far the way to go, and I regret not having taken advantage of that opportunity. You will sit reserve no matter which company you choose. But the growth potential at Republic is far greater. I think (and I could be wrong) that you would be hard pressed to find an Eagle pilot with many years there that thinks Eagle will expand markedly. More likely it will shrink. As for Eagle being relatively stable, it may be, but if you think long term, who knows? I'm sure the pilots that hired on at Pan Am, Eastern, TWA, and Braniff all thought that they were "stable" companies compared to questionable career choices like Fedex...

Whether you want a faster upgrade or not, the potential for upward movement is better at Republic. Which in turn gives you greater choices at said company, and ultimately a better QOL.
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Old 01-09-2010 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by capto
Mr. Eagle sorry I did not think my comment would cause such great offense. No worries I won't be going there anytime soon. Yes true, you probably wouldn’t want to fly for my current employer neither do I but don't have much of a choice these days. However as I said before if I end up furlough Eagle is not in my plans, prospects there are rather low.( Just my opinion) based on what I have gathered from several former Eagle drivers flying at my current airline. Once again sir only my personal opinion; no need to get personal. Thanks

Who said that I was getting personal?
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Old 01-09-2010 | 02:47 PM
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Where do you guys think the new pilots hired in all this will be based if they make it through? Is SJU chosen more by people who like the flying? ORD seems to be the Junior base, possibly ORD?
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Old 01-09-2010 | 03:01 PM
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Thanks for the input Iquiteagle. I would be much more apt to lean to AE if they had a new solid contract w/AMR. Your right though you never really know who will still be around in 5 yrs in this crazy industry.
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Old 01-09-2010 | 03:03 PM
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My guess is jet slots on the mainland.

ORD EMJ
ORD CRJ
JFK EMJ
DFW CRJ
DFW EMJ

CRJ will be a much longer reserve and the only way out of a CRJ F/O position is upgrade or displacement, but the aircraft is nicer, the trips not necessarily so.
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Old 01-09-2010 | 03:37 PM
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CRJ will be a much longer reserve and the only way out of a CRJ F/O position is upgrade or displacement, but the aircraft is nicer, the trips not necessarily so.
No it's not niceR. They are both regional jets. . You can still hop into the cabin from the ground. 2 or more years of reserve for a CRJ-700 is insane. Go for the schedules. By the way, why do you guys call the ERJs, EMJs?
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Old 01-09-2010 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by IQuitEagle
I was a senior-ish FO at Eagle before I quit in 2007 (6.5 years). I back in 2006, I was weighing options and I interviewed and was offered a job at Republic. I ultimately passed on it, as I thought things were going to turn around in good time at Eagle with the flowbacks possibly getting recalled to AA..
Same here. Quit late '07 w 2001 hire. Passed up the interview; would have been left seat for sure before I could even SNIFF it at Eagle. Had a Flt. instructor Jr to me where we instructed; took the 'non-eagle' route to the regionals (RAH) and upgraded fairly quickly and it became obvious who chose the better path....
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Old 01-09-2010 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AirWillie
why do you guys call the ERJs, EMJs?
Because Embraer was origionally calling it the "EMbraer Jet 145" before they changed it to the "Embraer Regional Jet 145". So it's coded EMJ in our Saber system.

And yes, the CRJ-700 is nicer than a ERJ-145. Who cares if it's regional...it's a freak'n airplane.
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Old 01-09-2010 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ERJF15
And yes, the CRJ-700 is nicer than a ERJ-145. Who cares if it's regional...it's a freak'n airplane.
Subjective. Shall we start the flamebait on whos #*@$ is bigger? i have 3 former CRJ pilots in my cpad who were displaced to EMB (or is it ERJ, or EMJ) and they say they like the -145 better....opinions. opinions.
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Old 01-09-2010 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
...only way out of a CRJ F/O position is upgrade or displacement, but the aircraft is nicer, the trips not necessarily so.
Correct. But also, the only way out of, "EMJ F/O position is upgrade or displacement." Both jets are the same as far as being stuck until upgrade as an FO, unless displaced. You can't bid EMJ to CRJ as an FO.
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