Hard to tell how many they'll hire this year. It depends on how many of the 767s are returned to lessors as the 5 A330s are delivered, and the resulting net increase to the fleet. No one really seems to know at this point.

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I really want to work for HAL. Don't really have good connections but I'm just gonna keep on applying and hopefully one day get even just an interview. I'm not a high time pilot either just an fo with about 3700 total mostly RJ time,no type yet but soon,hopefully in May.

good luck to all of us! :) thanks HAL for the chance and opportunity! I hope to join your group soon!

Mahalo!

story I got from the meeting over the NEO's is we're giving back 4 767's and taking 5 busses... with the new rest rules, they expect to hire, but mainly for the rules not so much growth... More growth in 2014..

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Is there a way to change,update, replace the attachments on the applications online? Thank you.

Did you ever figured out how to delete? Thanks

was there a phase lll recently? or did these 4 do phase lll awhile ago and just didn't take the first available class?

I guess this is the reason for the stock diving today...

HONOLULU (AP) -- Hawaiian Airlines lost $3.4 million in the fourth quarter after recording nearly $12 million in interest expenses and nearly $9 million in losses on fuel derivatives, the Honolulu company said Tuesday.

The airline's parent, Hawaiian Holdings Inc., said revenue totaled nearly $493 million during the three months that ended Dec. 31.

The loss compared with a profit of $20.9 million in the fourth quarter of 2011.

Hawaiian CEO Mark Dunkerley said the results were disappointing after a year of growth and improving financial results.

"The sharp weakening of the yen, continued excess capacity in certain markets and an accounting charge all worked to depress our earnings for the period despite many other things going right for the business," Dunkerley said.

The loss amounted to 7 cents per share. The airline said it had adjusted net income of about $100,000, which was less than a penny per share.

Analysts polled by FactSet had expected revenue of $503 million and adjusted income of 11 cents per share.

Hawaiian posted a profit of $53.2 million for the full year. That compared with a loss of $2.6 million in 2011.

Shares of Hawaiian were unchanged at $6.54 in afterhours trading Tuesday after holding steady during the day. The stock has had a 52-week high of $7.30.

The airline launched four new routes from Honolulu in 2012: to Fukuoka and Sapporo in Japan, plus Brisbane, Australia and New York. It also announced new service from Honolulu to Taiwan, increased service between Honolulu and Sydney, and increased service between Maui and Los Angeles.

The airline recently announced a planned expansion with 16 new Airbus planes for routes between Hawaii and the U.S. West Coast.

"2013 promises to be an equally exciting year for the company with new destinations, new aircraft and more employees being planned," Dunkerley said.

With close to $400M in unrestricted cash this is hardly anything for concern. Growth is expensive. The fact that they haven't been losing money all along is amazing.

I completed Phase III the end of Nov. This was the first class I was offered. Believe me if I had been offered an earlier one I would've taken it! :)

CAT 3 is correct. During investors conference call CEO Dunkerly indicated the company plans to return 4 767s this year while taking dellivery of 5 A330s, for a net increase of only one aircraft. This one airplane would only represent about 12 to 15 new hires, absent hiring for new regs, at least until late fall when they'd have to spool up for 2014 deliveries. But, that's all subject to change as the year progresses.

I have the same problem . Three different resumes as I updated them. No way to delete the previous

Anyone know if all phase 3 invites are done for this last application window? Interviewed in Oct. and never got the thanks by no thanks e-mail. Still waiting patiently for a Phase III invite.

Anyone care to take a guess as to how many are in that "still under consideration" bucket from the last window. 50? 70? 100? Seems there are quite a few of us.

Mr. White

Thank you.. HA my dream job still "under consideration" never interviewed, got the email from Sue about 5 months ago, with the whoopsy email 30 min later... From a line by Hawaiian artist Jack Johnson, "must I always be waiting waiting on you..";)

How about those in the guard/reserve? Have you see that demographic much at HAL? I interviewed before I joined the military and was invited to phase 3 after I joined so I had to turn it down. I'm looking to apply again in a year or two when I'm done with active duty (back to traditional reservist). But I'm wondering if my new military commitment will hurt my chances this time around since HAL is still a relatively small company and they'd know that I have another professional commitment on the side. (I know discrimination is illegal but really there's no way you could prove they didn't hire you for one reason or another.)

From what I can see, there are surpringly few military pilots in the new hires. My class the one before line, and the two after mine had none. Which for a legacy airline is odd. Not sure why, just reporting my observation.

Ya that's what I thought as well. My interview subgroup (the dozen or so of us in the group interview) only had two military guys and I don't even know if either got hired.

Well, for one, Hawaiian does not pay very well first year. And the fact that they don't fly you out to Hawaii, for phase 1/2 and phase 3 - nor do they fly you out to Honolulu to start your new job, seems a little off-puting. A little odd to hear "welcome to the Hawaiian family, now find your own way here."

This and the lack of options with domiciles kind of puts them in a very limited niche group.

Then again, could be a general decrease in military trained pilots overall. Don't think drone operators follow the airline route path, do they?

There are many good things about Hawaiian, but some aspects make it a bit peculiar.

For the reasons you mentioned. Military pilots can't jump seat to the islands for the numerous interviews or wait for Hawaiian's long interview process and many can't live on the islands during first year pay. Unless they are already stationed there.
No they don't. At least not the ones without other flying time.

Lots of guard and former military guys here, particularly Army helicopter pilots.

Not true. There are numerous military flights to the islands. Active/retired military people can Space A on virtually all of them.

Space A is a completely different animal.

I know nothing of Hawaiian's hiring practices, but I'm assuming their interview is one day, at a specific time. You just cant count on Space A to get you there.

I flew Space A to Hawaii a couple of years ago, spent three days in San Francisco waiting on a flight there, then two days in Hawaii waiting for a flight out. That only gets you to San Francisco, or Seattle, or maybe San Antonio. Then, you've gotta get home. I know most airline guys don't have to buy tickets, but buying same day airline tickets is quite expensive.

Hawaiian is a fine airline to work for, I'm sure, but most military guys that aren't stationed in Hawaii can't afford to apply there.

Heck, I can badly afford to go to job fairs!

Perhaps a little research would have gotten you back and forth faster. Lots of Navy flights with seats available. But if you hang around the MAC terminals, you'll sit.

Nope, tried the Navy ones, no seats, but there was only one Navy flight out when I was out there, back to the mainland. Dont remember where it was going to either.

Not the point though. For a guy NOT in the airline industry, not able to jumpseat, I'm finding out trying to get a job is quite expensive.

When is the next App window? Mayish still? Also what is the best way for some one who isnt Hawaiian to get noticed? I've always loved the islands, and used to go every couple month's when I was younger but never had the chance to move there ( almost but it didn't come through). Unfortunately I don't know anyone there either. I know it is a long shot but I would love to fly and live there. I have heard of people flying there to try and network. Thoughts?

Kaimaaina. Start there.

Close....but it's "Kamaaina".

See, I didn't make it past phase I ;)

haha, far be it for me to say as a mainlander, but isn't it really "Kama'aina" :D

and as to that point.... I am certainly; as wasn't most of my class... Kama'aina

Haha. You're learning quickly. Hope you're well, buddy.

Everybody's got a fair shot here. When the window opens get your app in. Like anywhere else internal recs are looked at first, but they will look at those without recs after they've looked at those with. And they have hired from both groups. As for the military guys....yes, they've hired a fair percentage there too. The big thing to remember is they look at the overall package. Each class seems to be composed of pilots from a variety of backgrounds. The common thread is that they're very nice people, and the company has had more than one opportunity to look at them to make reasonably certain of that.

Not sure how many they'll eventually hire later this year.....it could be as few as a dozen if the net increase in the fleet is only one aircraft, or it could be a few dozen if they keep some 767s.

Hopefully they keep some.... I know it's a small sample size, but every 767 West Coast flight I've done has had a 90%+ load factor this month...

And from an inner island perspective, it seems that those loads have been very high this month....Atleast that was what the last guys I jumpseated with told me..

I'd imagine the 76 fleet will be around for some time. 580-582 are owned and only 2001 builds. I see them as the last of the 76 fleet to go. I'd like to see the -EM fleet leave first.

I just received an email from HAL:

Thank you for taking the time to participate in our initial screening process for the position of First Officer at Hawaiian Airlines, (12-0604). We received many applications for this position.

In the course of our screening process your qualifications were thoroughly reviewed. At this time your application will remain under further consideration and we may contact you in the future for additional screening.

We sincerely appreciate your continued interest in Hawaiian Airlines.

Best Regards,
Human Resources

So maybe I'm in the pool for phase III? Good or Bad? Thoughts?

Good I think...I received the same one. It sounds like the other one sent out today was fairly clear about having to reapply. Not sure if this means a phase 3 prior to the next window but we're still in the running...good luck!:)

Hopefully they figured out how to inform the right people this time, don't hold your breath.

Absolutely unprofessional, but hey it's Hawaiian right?!

By that you mean you weren't selected.... :rolleyes:

When did you guys interview? I interviewed in Sept., recieved that email twice, once in October and again in Novermber last year...Nothing since...

I interviewed the end of November...slow process:)

Same time frame. Right there with ya Magro. Good luck and hopefully I'll see you in HNL soon!