Flying Amigos

It amazes me that executives are able to get away with this type of dereliction of duty. They started with arguably one of the highest quality regional airlines and a rock solid relationship with their major partner, and they have blown it. Timing the required pilot training for new planes with known delivery date seems like a fairly simple math equation. In any case, if they were behind on that equation, they should have done something long before the day of a fully sold flight. Honestly, I think they got sloppy and failed to realize the competition was nipping on their heels. They thought it was all about economics, and getting concessions from pilots would solve the problems. In reality it was about staffing and operational reliabilty. SkyWest is flying 7, count em 7 crjs to cover for QX short term. I'm sure OO didn't bring in all these resources without extracting something from AAG (see 10 new 175s). Flying the plane is our problem, staffing and running the airline is management's problem. This is in their laps, even though line employees are paying the price.

SIUav8er

Perfect summary of this mess!

Sikorsky38

Just to clarify, it has been Alaska Air Group that is ultimately responsible for Horizon Air's problems. They own Horizon and have hand picked every CEO we have ever had, including Glenn Johnson who singlehandedly got rid of all our CRJs, and Dave Campbell who sat by 'fat, dumb and happy' as Brad Lambert 'lied' to him about how well things were going over here.

SIUav8er

Anyone hear the conference call today? Hornibrook is in way over his head. Didn't hear one solution or plan to right the ship. Just a bunch of "I love Horizon" "We've got stuff in the works" and "Brad Tilden and the AAG board are getting involved!"

Yeah, the training department needs to expand, but I think even Lambert knew that...

CurseURedBaron

They tried everything from "upgrade twice as quickly on the dash" to "twice as much bonus money on the dash" to "you'll almost assuredly fly both airframes while you're here anyway" (due to faster upgrade)

The recruitment department talks about the dash like it'll cure cancer.

SIUav8er

Ha! Clearly they've never flown one in the summer. The lav is a couple feet from the flight deck. It smells awesome!

DashAviator

The biggest problem with the Dash isn't the airplane, it's the SCHEDULES!

misterpretzel

Mind expanding for a newbie? All I've gathered so far is that sometimes there are 6 leg days.

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ASpilot2be

Same with the SAAB. But on the plus side there is an APU, which I am really excited about.

snackysmores

The APU is nice except the company doesn't want us using them. They over invested in pre conditioned air carts (which SUCK) and stations are writing up flight crews who refuse to use them.

The APU costs about $20 to start up, but Alaska would rather have pax sit on a 90 degree airplane sweating. They might work better in the winter but they definitely cannot keep a plane cold.