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Old 01-05-2017, 10:37 AM
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The company advised our union this morning at 9:30am, effective immediately, the company will offer new hires direct signing bonuses. They didn't state a number, but this directly violates our CBA and will go to court. If you come here, take the bonus and undermine our negotiating efforts (which will surely come with a 2 year contract) you will not be welcomed by our pilot group.
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Old 01-05-2017, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rotors2Planks View Post
There probably isn't an external pressure like that with Horizon, correct?
The only external pressure would be if we start cancelling enough flights to tank Alaska's precious stock price, since that seems to be the only thing their management actually cares about.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:23 PM
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If a new hire takes the bonus it's not a failure on their part, it's a failure on the part of the union for not using their leverage to get a good contract a year ago.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by snackysmores View Post
The company advised our union this morning at 9:30am, effective immediately, the company will offer new hires direct signing bonuses. They didn't state a number, but this directly violates our CBA and will go to court. If you come here, take the bonus and undermine our negotiating efforts (which will surely come with a 2 year contract) you will not be welcomed by our pilot group.
Wow, so if I was a new and took a bonus, I would immediately be a scab per the pilot union/community? I think I might sit out Compass and I have an interview for SkyWest coming up, sounds like either is a better place to work no matter what base you land at. Is Horizon in self destruct mode or what?
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Originally Posted by snackysmores View Post
The company advised our union this morning at 9:30am, effective immediately, the company will offer new hires direct signing bonuses. They didn't state a number, but this directly violates our CBA and will go to court. If you come here, take the bonus and undermine our negotiating efforts (which will surely come with a 2 year contract) you will not be welcomed by our pilot group.
It's sad that it has to be that way but I agree with the stance the pilot group would take but WHY WHY did this pilot group vote in a very very poor contract?
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Old 01-05-2017, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JKSees View Post
Wow, so if I was a new and took a bonus, I would immediately be a scab per the pilot union/community? I think I might sit out Compass and I have an interview for SkyWest coming up, sounds like either is a better place to work no matter what base you land at. Is Horizon in self destruct mode or what?
No you probably wouldn't be treated as a scab, no one here is that hardcore (well maybe a few). You definitely won't be getting high fives though. We have to account for a lot of new people to be completely oblivious as to what's going on.

I'd do the skywest interview, you can land the E175 in pdx or sea straight out of training, get more money, and enjoy a quality of life that's infinitely better than Horizons. SkyWest upgrade is 1.5 years and dropping while Horizons is 2.5-3 years and climbing if they park our Qs.
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Old 01-05-2017, 01:07 PM
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It's about to get really ugly here with company violating our contract. If you come here now most of the pilot group is going to assume that they gave you the money. So don't expect open arms from most of the pilot group. I feel bad for those that are coming in, but the company has chosen this route. Don't be surprised if this gets much worse.
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Old 01-05-2017, 02:12 PM
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It sucks watching this place starting to implode. Handing out money outside our contract will make things worse and more hostile. This will not help rention, talked to many who are now accelerating their exit, cause they don't want to be on a the Boat as it sinks. They think this will help fill classes that we desperately need, it might help catch a few more. Its also creating a looming larger attrition rate. Was hoping to upgrade here but now the future is questionable???
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Old 01-05-2017, 02:49 PM
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All the company needs to do is approach the union to reopen the compensation section of the contract and offer to go back to the old RJ pay scale +10% and FINALLY an official flow to ALK in exchange for getting their coveted flexibility on first year pay. And this matter would be solved.. period. But sadly, what a far fetched crazy idea that would be...

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Old 01-05-2017, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AFlight511 View Post
It's about to get really ugly here with company violating our contract. If you come here now most of the pilot group is going to assume that they gave you the money. So don't expect open arms from most of the pilot group. I feel bad for those that are coming in, but the company has chosen this route. Don't be surprised if this gets much worse.
No dog in this fight but curious, you have a clause in your contract that prohibits new hire bonuses? They didn't offer the current pilot group anything? This puts people with a job offer waiting on a class in a tight spot.
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