Originally Posted by PositiveRate88

To begin with, the training pay is really low, maybe the lowest in the industry, I’m aware of several regionals where you would make more money while in training than you do at JetBlue. The training pay is $2,000/month BEFORE taxes and benefits, which means if you are putting your family on your medical benefits your paychecks will be around $500 twice a month.

They tell you to expect six weeks of this but they have really bitten off more than they can chew down in Orlando… the first thing I found out when I got down there is that classes ahead of me were experiencing sever training delays. They are short on instructors and the sims go down for MX. Despite this they keep shoving classes of 50 pilots through every other week. We had one guy in our class who was awarded the 220 get sent home for a month. We had several guys on rolling cancelations for 3 weeks.

Once that’s all over you’d expect them to switch you to line pay no problem… and you’d be wrong. Despite the fact that they made you wait 12 weeks to complete a background check before giving you a class date, despite the fact that you’ve been on property for 3 months, and despite the fact that the CBA clearly states once a pilot has competed LOE they cutover to line pay… this is not happening. Payroll is aware we have completed LOE but they still have not completed our paperwork so they are still paying us training pay, but don’t worry they will back pay us! (Merry Christmas…) The union is aware but they tell us there’s nothing they can do and that a grievance would take too long, “by the time we made it to arbitration you will have already been paid”

So if you take the job and come here, when they make you sit in that auditorium and tell you we are all one big family. Take it from me, they don’t give a **** about you….

Originally Posted by feltf4

What seat and base are you in? Did you just start? I’m sure you missed all the key information about how much you would be paid in training? Or the fact that it takes a long time to get through background. Sounds like you’re “happy to be here”. You’ll likely fit in nicely here.

Originally Posted by PositiveRate88

Yes I was aware of all of that, I’m trying to tell you the system is being overloaded and is severally broken down in MCO. The CBA states that a pilot cuts over to line pay after LOE, my LOE was a month ago and my pay stub still shows training pay despite being assured by many they’d get it corrected (and then later told that there’s nothing they can do but they will back pay me). As I stated in my original post, I’ve been here 3 months, so I went from making $120/year to making $6k for three months ($3k take home) I have kids I should be buying Christmas presents for, I have a mortgage, and I am trying to warn others how bad it is.

Originally Posted by PositiveRate88

To begin with, the training pay is really low, maybe the lowest in the industry, I’m aware of several regionals where you would make more money while in training than you do at JetBlue. The training pay is $2,000/month BEFORE taxes and benefits, which means if you are putting your family on your medical benefits your paychecks will be around $500 twice a month.

They tell you to expect six weeks of this but they have really bitten off more than they can chew down in Orlando… the first thing I found out when I got down there is that classes ahead of me were experiencing sever training delays. They are short on instructors and the sims go down for MX. Despite this they keep shoving classes of 50 pilots through every other week. We had one guy in our class who was awarded the 220 get sent home for a month. We had several guys on rolling cancelations for 3 weeks.

Once that’s all over you’d expect them to switch you to line pay no problem… and you’d be wrong. Despite the fact that they made you wait 12 weeks to complete a background check before giving you a class date, despite the fact that you’ve been on property for 3 months, and despite the fact that the CBA clearly states once a pilot has competed LOE they cutover to line pay… this is not happening. Payroll is aware we have completed LOE but they still have not completed our paperwork so they are still paying us training pay, but don’t worry they will back pay us! (Merry Christmas…) The union is aware but they tell us there’s nothing they can do and that a grievance would take too long, “by the time we made it to arbitration you will have already been paid”

So if you take the job and come here, when they make you sit in that auditorium and tell you we are all one big family. Take it from me, they don’t give a **** about you….

Originally Posted by feltf4

Ok, and every single person here did the same thing you’re doing. Likely had it much worse off than you’re explaining.

it’s going to be a long road for you here if you think this place is bad and you’re 3 months in.

Originally Posted by PositiveRate88

Really? Ever single person dealt with this? So they didn’t pay you line pay after your LOE?

Originally Posted by feltf4

Ok, and every single person here did the same thing you’re doing. Likely had it much worse off than you’re explaining.

it’s going to be a long road for you here if you think this place is bad and you’re 3 months in.

Originally Posted by say again

His **** poor financial planning is now others problems. He made all that money prior, but yet he can't live a couple of months on training pay.

Originally Posted by PositiveRate88

I was planning on making line pay after I passed my LOE… that was a month ago. That’s a difference of $5300. You can be on your high horse all you want but I hope people considering JetBlue read my experience and go elsewhere. I know I am….

Originally Posted by TheDuster

They’ll be lucky to have you! Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.