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12-15-2022, 06:19 PM
#171
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Originally Posted by HastyPack
$100/hour. Come on over for a 39% haircut!
Plus a much higher 401k, I’d imagine…
12-15-2022, 06:27 PM
#172
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Originally Posted by Ejet17589
I am at a rate of 164$ per hour Capt at my current company. I know you guys don’t wanna mention the numbers but how is it looking year 1 FO?
12-15-2022, 06:29 PM
#174
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Position: fifi whisperer
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
My concern, is if you aren't willing to stand for profit sharing now, you will fold during JCBA.
Hope I'm wrong, prove me wrong.
Hope I'm wrong, prove me wrong.
it’s different, right. This is a short term agreement….. not a comprehensive CBA. It’s 2 years in which there is no way we have large profits.
the 17k/11k is more than enough to hold me over until we get profit sharing in the JBCA
Last edited by seekingblue; 12-15-2022 at 06:40 PM.
12-15-2022, 06:30 PM
#175
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
I promise you I won’t. A 20% raise now makes a huge difference at this point in my life/career, plain and simple. Forgoing that would hurt. I agree with you that PS is important in the long term, but this TA isn’t supposed to be long term. The JCBA is. The JCBA absolutely needs PS.
well said.
12-15-2022, 06:31 PM
#176
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Originally Posted by CareerPivot
More importantly... what does year 2 look like? Also a 6% raise?
12-15-2022, 06:32 PM
#177
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Position: Hack pilot
Posts: 216
Originally Posted by SaintNick
I’ve never voted yes to anything here. I might on this one.
Tired of seniority being worthless, mainly with respect to payouts ie our Grievance and now this. Big picture it’s irrelevant, this passes 80%
12-15-2022, 06:35 PM
#178
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Position: fifi whisperer
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Originally Posted by KNOTAPILOT
Why do you feel you can’t have both? Pay rate lags Delta by quite a bit, no PS meaning another couple tens of thousands, I do like the snap up.
Not awful but I’m a NO. I think rates have the be much higher or PS has to be in there. Once it’s there a JCBA doesn’t go through without it.
Not awful but I’m a NO. I think rates have the be much higher or PS has to be in there. Once it’s there a JCBA doesn’t go through without it.
Profit sharing isn’t my line in the sand for this agreement. 17k/11k is fine until we get the JBCA.
confused by your delta pay rate comment…. We will get snapped up to that rate.
at some point we all have to realize a simple truth….. this is a lot more money than we are making now and it protects us to keep our pay industry leading until 2024.
12-15-2022, 06:38 PM
#179
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
If someone can answer without being unpleasant, I’m genuinely curious…
Say we vote this down. Then what? We keep our current rates for how long… another month before a new TA is offered? A year? 4 years, like precious Delta? How do you see these negotiations going that it’s worth voting down these rates with a snap-up?
We negotiate an entirely new JCBA in a couple years. Do we really think that voting this down now is going to net us more money between now and the JCBA? At a company and with a union that you guys all crap on constantly? And with a recession looming?
Say we vote this down. Then what? We keep our current rates for how long… another month before a new TA is offered? A year? 4 years, like precious Delta? How do you see these negotiations going that it’s worth voting down these rates with a snap-up?
We negotiate an entirely new JCBA in a couple years. Do we really think that voting this down now is going to net us more money between now and the JCBA? At a company and with a union that you guys all crap on constantly? And with a recession looming?
THIS.
100% this.
12-15-2022, 06:41 PM
#180
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Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
I strongly encourage you to go to Delta. Your personality would fit right in and you can go roll around in your money like scrooge mcduck. Only a real rectum of a human would come out trying to be personally insulting to someone like you are to me. All I did was state my opinion, god forbid it differ in any way from yours. Right here, bud.
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