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12-15-2022 | 05:18 PM
#151
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12-15-2022 | 05:25 PM
#153
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This thread has become quite amusing to read from a group that let their backbones break to take a smack-in-the-face slap 3% earlier this year.
I know, I know. “It was 3% or nothing.” Then take nothing next time!!
It is not as good as I wanted, but a bit better than I was expecting. A lot depends on the snap-up language of AA, ALA, DAL, SWA, and UAL.
I know, I know. “It was 3% or nothing.” Then take nothing next time!!
It is not as good as I wanted, but a bit better than I was expecting. A lot depends on the snap-up language of AA, ALA, DAL, SWA, and UAL.
12-15-2022 | 05:36 PM
#154
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I had a delta widebody fo in my jumpseat a few years ago. He had been on property for quite some time. He was flying home after buying an airplane with his profit sharing check that year. And yet here we have the usual suspects, saying just how awesome and fair this is. Without profit sharing we come up short of Alaska, not even getting close to Delta. Delta is predicting a record profit for 2023. Our NC went after 3 things and came back with two. Hard f-ing no.
12-15-2022 | 05:42 PM
#155
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From: A320 CA
I was on a call during Covid when WC said the PS wasn’t good enough and they promise to fix it. Well fix it then. I’m a hard no without PS; it’s leaving $40K a year on the table for the next 5 years for a single $17K signing bonus.
12-15-2022 | 05:46 PM
#156
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12-15-2022 | 05:46 PM
#157
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From: fifi whisperer
I’m voting yes.
the snap up is what sealed the deal for me.
IMHO- profit sharing isn’t worth it. I’d rather have the snap up. The likelihood of us actually turning a profit before getting a JBCA is nil.
That said, profit sharing in the JBCA is important.
the snap up is what sealed the deal for me.
IMHO- profit sharing isn’t worth it. I’d rather have the snap up. The likelihood of us actually turning a profit before getting a JBCA is nil.
That said, profit sharing in the JBCA is important.
12-15-2022 | 05:50 PM
#159
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Why do you feel you can’t have both? Pay rate lags Delta by quite a bit, no PS meaning another couple tens of thousands, I do like the snap up.
Not awful but I’m a NO. I think rates have the be much higher or PS has to be in there. Once it’s there a JCBA doesn’t go through without it.
12-15-2022 | 05:58 PM
#160
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Don’t kid yourself. If you aren’t willing to hold the line on profit sharing now, after taking it up the tailpipe for years while our peers were aptly sharing in the success of their (admittedly better-run airlines), you won’t hold the line then. Nor will our negotiators. Besides, there’s absolutely no guarantee our bargaining position will be any stronger then, than it is now.
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