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#641
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2007
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DAL doesn't get Junior Assignment pay? I doubt that.
Our ADG@0100 would be worth something if there wasn't a MASSIVE carve out for redeye turns, I've gotten it like 3 times in my life. Oh, and don't forget the fact that DAL has a higher guarantee and I believe its per day not average. (i.e. It is worth WAAAAY more $$$).
What reserve reassignment protections are you referring to? Our reserve system absolutely blows in most ways. Maybe you have cherry picked a subsection? We USED to get premium if a reserve was reassigned, that was given away in CBA 1.0
Are you comparing it to your last regional/135 outfit?
Edit: Just looked DAL is ADG 5:15 vs our 5. It triggers at 0200 with no carve out for redeye turns. That carve out KILLS us.
Our ADG@0100 would be worth something if there wasn't a MASSIVE carve out for redeye turns, I've gotten it like 3 times in my life. Oh, and don't forget the fact that DAL has a higher guarantee and I believe its per day not average. (i.e. It is worth WAAAAY more $$$).
What reserve reassignment protections are you referring to? Our reserve system absolutely blows in most ways. Maybe you have cherry picked a subsection? We USED to get premium if a reserve was reassigned, that was given away in CBA 1.0
Are you comparing it to your last regional/135 outfit?
Edit: Just looked DAL is ADG 5:15 vs our 5. It triggers at 0200 with no carve out for redeye turns. That carve out KILLS us.
The ADG and EPS definitely favors the senior pilot that bid day turns, but I wouldn’t call it worthless.
#642
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2015
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Terms of service have rescued me more than once (on reserve and otherwise). Having said this there's definitely improvements to be had and I’m not overly familiar with big six reserve systems.
#644
New Hire
Joined: Jun 2022
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So a month off of work and then ability to make two months of pay the next month is a company man?
#645
#646
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 436
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We are the only airline that has this carve out. Its industry lagging, like everything else here once you put it into context.
#647
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined: Sep 2011
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From: Airbus Capt
It's not completely worthless obviously, but its no where near "above industry average". Imagine how much people would be making if redeye turns were worth 10:30.... and you still triggered another day at 02:00 when there is a meltdown.
We are the only airline that has this carve out. Its industry lagging, like everything else here once you put it into context.
We are the only airline that has this carve out. Its industry lagging, like everything else here once you put it into context.
#648
Line Holder
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 41
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From: CA
I went to the one in BOS on the 3rd. The presentation lasts about an hour and a half. We took a break and everyone grabbed the provided lunch, came back to the conference room and they opened the floor for Q & A. I stayed about an hour before leaving to fly. Overall, it was a well conducted event. There were some really good questions asked and the answers were clear.
#649
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2010
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Sorry if you guys are answering this the for 100th time. When does the voting on your TA close? Spirit is in a few days and Delta I don’t know about either.
At SWA the Strike Vote drum is starting to beat harder and harder, so that’s where we are.
At SWA the Strike Vote drum is starting to beat harder and harder, so that’s where we are.
#650
Voting window is Jan 16-30th for us
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