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Old 02-27-2016 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by dogpilot
The group of pilots that has the largest number of d-bags per capita is your benchmark. You guys do what you want, I thought JetBlue was different. You guys sound like the guys flying at my regional who curse out the ground guy for making a mistake. Where is humanity in any of this, or does ALPA need instruct us on being human and then it will be the professional thing to do.
Humanity has nothing to do with it... And I had to laugh when you said JetBlue is different. They sell that really... Really well. If JetBlue was different and lived the values that is pushes we would not have had a record breaking 74% YES vote for unionization.

I'm not sure why you're having a hard time comprehending this. The FOM states this is not one of your duties. It also says "due to safety concerns as well as time constraints, aircraft cleaning is to be considered above and beyond working pilots..."

Your Union who is negotiating on your behalf has asked you not to participate in this action.

You were hired to be a professional pilot, not a seat janitor.
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Old 02-27-2016 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
Humanity has nothing to do with it... And I had to laugh when you said JetBlue is different. They sell that really... Really well. If JetBlue was different and lived the values that is pushes we would not have had a record breaking 74% YES vote for unionization.

I'm not sure why you're having a hard time comprehending this. The FOM states this is not one of your duties. It also says "due to safety concerns as well as time constraints, aircraft cleaning is to be considered above and beyond working pilots..."

Your Union who is negotiating on your behalf has asked you not to participate in this action.

You were hired to be a professional pilot, not a seat janitor.
Same humanity that refuses to help a pax with a bag because it is their fault for not being strong enough, that isn't your job. It isn't your job to help someone in a wheelchair, or a mother who has more bags, for her very young kids, than she can handle, or be friendly to a scared pax, and any other thing that separate us from the animal kingdom. Yes it has everything to do with humanity. If they wrote it in your FOM, or if ALPA told you to, would it make sense? Can you think for yourself?
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Old 02-27-2016 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dogpilot
Same humanity that refuses to help a pax with a bag because it is their fault for not being strong enough, that isn't your job. It isn't your job to help someone in a wheelchair, or a mother who has more bags, for her very young kids, than she can handle, or be friendly to a scared pax, and any other thing that separate us from the animal kingdom. Yes it has everything to do with humanity. If they wrote it in your FOM, or if ALPA told you to, would it make sense? Can you think for yourself?
Do you see the difference in your examples over picking up trash?
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Old 02-27-2016 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dogpilot
Same humanity that refuses to help a pax with a bag because it is their fault for not being strong enough, that isn't your job. It isn't your job to help someone in a wheelchair, or a mother who has more bags, for her very young kids, than she can handle, or be friendly to a scared pax, and any other thing that separate us from the animal kingdom. Yes it has everything to do with humanity. If they wrote it in your FOM, or if ALPA told you to, would it make sense? Can you think for yourself?
This is how I feel. I don't have to do the seats but I do as part of a team. When your running late and it gives the FA's a chance to check their phones respond to loved ones it get back on track. I can't find anywhere in their FAM's where it says they have to get me a beverage? I have seen many that say they never do seats come out of the wood work to help if it's go home day and they are trying to make a commute home? Now they have a huge dilemma.......again it requires you to think for yourself or hide in selfish hypocrisy?.....
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Old 02-27-2016 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dogpilot
Same humanity that refuses to help a pax with a bag because it is their fault for not being strong enough, that isn't your job. It isn't your job to help someone in a wheelchair, or a mother who has more bags, for her very young kids, than she can handle, or be friendly to a scared pax, and any other thing that separate us from the animal kingdom. Yes it has everything to do with humanity. If they wrote it in your FOM, or if ALPA told you to, would it make sense? Can you think for yourself?
Those are all admirable things to do. I think any one of us would do all of the above given the opportunity.

However as I asked before and you didn't answer, do you help clean the lavs during a turn? Obviously you don't. But why? There has to be a line where our jobs end and someone else's begins.
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Old 02-27-2016 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by hyperboy
This is how I feel. I don't have to do the seats but I do as part of a team. When your running late and it gives the FA's a chance to check their phones respond to loved ones it get back on track. I can't find anywhere in their FAM's where it says they have to get me a beverage? I have seen many that say they never do seats come out of the wood work to help if it's go home day and they are trying to make a commute home? Now they have a huge dilemma.......again it requires you to think for yourself or hide in selfish hypocrisy?.....
Do you clean in uniform with pax deplaning?

Many times on the 190 there's time to help cross belts after everyone has deplaned. However on the Airbus the last few rows always take forever to deplane. In the mean time the FA's have already cleaned and crossed the whole plane and we don't even have the chance to help.
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Old 02-27-2016 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Did you clean the planes at your previous airline? Why did you start now at JB? Think about it.

I did, if I had time. I still do, if I have time.
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Old 02-27-2016 | 08:37 AM
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Competitive mins still at 5,000 TT plus? The current job description says 3,000 TT plus preferred, which I think is new. Currently at 4,500 TT/400 TPIC so praying I have a chance.
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Old 02-27-2016 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Competitive mins still at 5,000 TT plus? The current job description says 3,000 TT plus preferred, which I think is new. Currently at 4,500 TT/400 TPIC so praying I have a chance.

It varies application window to window. They look at all the apps, and set the competitive mins relative to all who applied. Since the window is open right now, the next mins haven't been set yet.
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Old 02-27-2016 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Southerner
It varies application window to window. They look at all the apps, and set the competitive mins relative to all who applied. Since the window is open right now, the next mins haven't been set yet.

Copy that. Excited to be meeting with one of your recruiters in Nashville next month. All my encounters with JetBlue has been first class.
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