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03-04-2016 | 05:46 AM
#7171
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To the regional captain that was asking about income .
I am about to go on 4th year pay, I am a Florida commuter with a Crashpad. My situation is a little dif than the recent guys hired , cause I was lucky enough to get on at the begening of what we ll call this hiring wave that has been going on the last three years. Hire month date of April.
2nd year W2 I made 101,000
3rd year W2 I made 141,000
Last year includes a profit sharing check and selling back the PTO that we get each month. I get the days off I need for vacation therefor don't need vacation , would rather sell it for money.
I keep my credit high , 95 or so. And I always try to swap into trips that pay better. I don't pick up a more days than what I am awarded much , rather swap out unefficient trips for better paying ones. I have to hawk flica in order to get these trip other wise the ninjas always get them. I don't do what we call RSA's or VDA's cause I don't live in base. (Basically signing your self up for flying at a high pay rate, kinda like throwing your self on reserve for a day or two . Plus I like to think that picking up extra time like that could be another new hire on property .
I do live in a Florida Blue city so the commute helps when being really flexible for trips that pop up in open time to make the credit effective.
I agree with what many said on here . Get rid of the PTO system and pay us like most of the industry , our system
Is designed to not want to call
In sick cause you ll loose too much money.
Hopes this gives you an idea of what to expect , really depends how much you wana work. Pay needs to be improved badly , but far from the bottom. People are great and red eyes are the devil.
Good luck
I am about to go on 4th year pay, I am a Florida commuter with a Crashpad. My situation is a little dif than the recent guys hired , cause I was lucky enough to get on at the begening of what we ll call this hiring wave that has been going on the last three years. Hire month date of April.
2nd year W2 I made 101,000
3rd year W2 I made 141,000
Last year includes a profit sharing check and selling back the PTO that we get each month. I get the days off I need for vacation therefor don't need vacation , would rather sell it for money.
I keep my credit high , 95 or so. And I always try to swap into trips that pay better. I don't pick up a more days than what I am awarded much , rather swap out unefficient trips for better paying ones. I have to hawk flica in order to get these trip other wise the ninjas always get them. I don't do what we call RSA's or VDA's cause I don't live in base. (Basically signing your self up for flying at a high pay rate, kinda like throwing your self on reserve for a day or two . Plus I like to think that picking up extra time like that could be another new hire on property .
I do live in a Florida Blue city so the commute helps when being really flexible for trips that pop up in open time to make the credit effective.
I agree with what many said on here . Get rid of the PTO system and pay us like most of the industry , our system
Is designed to not want to call
In sick cause you ll loose too much money.
Hopes this gives you an idea of what to expect , really depends how much you wana work. Pay needs to be improved badly , but far from the bottom. People are great and red eyes are the devil.
Good luck
03-04-2016 | 05:49 AM
#7172
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You can set up text alerts for $10 a month.....so basically you set it up to tell you when any trip pops into open time you get a text. So you have your phone on you 24/7. It is key to improving your schedule as a junior guy. KEY!
Just recommend putting the phone on vibrate and in your pocket when around the spouse. Mine got annoyed at me jumping like a dog every time my text alert dinged.
Just recommend putting the phone on vibrate and in your pocket when around the spouse. Mine got annoyed at me jumping like a dog every time my text alert dinged.
03-04-2016 | 07:35 AM
#7177
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You can set up text alerts for $10 a month.....so basically you set it up to tell you when any trip pops into open time you get a text. So you have your phone on you 24/7. It is key to improving your schedule as a junior guy. KEY!
Just recommend putting the phone on vibrate and in your pocket when around the spouse. Mine got annoyed at me jumping like a dog every time my text alert dinged.
Just recommend putting the phone on vibrate and in your pocket when around the spouse. Mine got annoyed at me jumping like a dog every time my text alert dinged.
Thanks!
03-04-2016 | 08:29 AM
#7178
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From: Airbus 320 Right Seat
Unless your the top line holder in seat and can et exactly what you want right off an awarded line , Flica alerts allow you to see open time as soon as it gets dropped in. You can set the request very specific so you only get the type of trips you want versus getting alerted at 3 am about some garbage trip worth min credit. Yes the wife hates all the alerts and me being on the phone sometimes at inappropriate times . But I tell her it's truly the way I make money now . The flying is secondary . Sadly true . There are guys way worse then me but I am half way glued to it .
03-04-2016 | 08:42 AM
#7179
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[QUOTE=Wolfbayne;2081847]
Anyone want to second this? Let's say someone gets hired later this spring... how long for Boston, and how long on reserve? Does the "years" hold water? Either airplane.
Man at that rate you will be able to upgrade in about 18 years!
For the record that's 16 upgrades in 6 months total time and that includes projections for busy summer flying. 16 is exactly 1/2 of 1 percent of our seniority list. It is obviously not always like this but it's not "awesome".
Everyone has their own reasons for being here and I respect those reasons but upgrade shouldn't be one of them. I enjoy working here and I live in base(the biggest reason, its a life changer in this business) but if I was a commuter and had multiple offers, or a new hire within the last 1-2 years I would be seriously considering alternatives.
Guys hired 5 years ago vs today will have very different careers at JB. It's even more pronounced the further back you go. It's like an inverse exponential graph due to us being such a young company with such a young pilot group.
15 years ago - phenomenal seniority
10 years ago - pretty damn good outside of the country club bases
5 years ago - quick upgrade but perpetual bottom 80% CA
3 years ago - last of the quick upgrade but looking at years and years of rsv as senior guys upgrade on top of you.
Guys hired 5 years ago needed the list to grow from 2000 pilots to 4000 pilots to make 50%.
Guys hired today need it to grow from 3500 to 7000!!!
Huge difference. Because there is no movement from retirements in the next 10 years. (Only about 100 total)
For the record that's 16 upgrades in 6 months total time and that includes projections for busy summer flying. 16 is exactly 1/2 of 1 percent of our seniority list. It is obviously not always like this but it's not "awesome".
Everyone has their own reasons for being here and I respect those reasons but upgrade shouldn't be one of them. I enjoy working here and I live in base(the biggest reason, its a life changer in this business) but if I was a commuter and had multiple offers, or a new hire within the last 1-2 years I would be seriously considering alternatives.
Guys hired 5 years ago vs today will have very different careers at JB. It's even more pronounced the further back you go. It's like an inverse exponential graph due to us being such a young company with such a young pilot group.
15 years ago - phenomenal seniority
10 years ago - pretty damn good outside of the country club bases
5 years ago - quick upgrade but perpetual bottom 80% CA
3 years ago - last of the quick upgrade but looking at years and years of rsv as senior guys upgrade on top of you.
Guys hired 5 years ago needed the list to grow from 2000 pilots to 4000 pilots to make 50%.
Guys hired today need it to grow from 3500 to 7000!!!
Huge difference. Because there is no movement from retirements in the next 10 years. (Only about 100 total)
03-04-2016 | 10:31 AM
#7180
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