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Old 06-27-2021, 03:14 PM
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Anyone know the arbitration schedule, or end date for a decision?
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Old 06-27-2021, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
Anyone know the arbitration schedule, or end date for a decision?
from the June 18th update: The arbitrator is now working with the parties to schedule additional dates for rebuttal testimony after which the hearing record will be closed and post-hearing briefs will be submitted per a schedule set by the arbitrator.


So…no schedule. No end date. TBD. Good luck. You above all. Thanks for all you do. Etc etc
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Old 06-27-2021, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
from the June 18th update: The arbitrator is now working with the parties to schedule additional dates for rebuttal testimony after which the hearing record will be closed and post-hearing briefs will be submitted per a schedule set by the arbitrator.


So…no schedule. No end date. TBD. Good luck. You above all. Thanks for all you do. Etc etc
thanks. Yup, sounds about right.
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Old 06-28-2021, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
Ironically, it sets an even worse precedent if the arbitrator sides with Jetblue/NEA and against ALPA. Such a ruling would set the precedent that the scope section of an airline CBA can be flagrantly violated by any company as long as it is in the company’s best interests. It essentially guts the scope section of every airline contract.

You’d think ALPA would be pushing harder than it sounds.

This isn’t even a gray area of Section 1. The company is on record saying the scope section needed modifications (LOA13) to make the NEA legal. Then they said they were going ahead with NEA even if we didn’t give them scope concessions. It’s a documented confession of wrongdoing before and after the fact. No way the arbitrator sides with Jetblue in a fair decision.
that’s what I meant. If an arbitrator breaks our scope clause just cause the company wants it, no airlines contract is safe and makes everything a free for all. Might as well not even have a contract
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Old 07-01-2021, 03:09 AM
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Are there any red eye, or close to red eye, flights on the 190?
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Old 07-01-2021, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HwkrPlt View Post
Are there any red eye, or close to red eye, flights on the 190?
Only when your 6pm ATL EWR BOS needs a FADEC component that will arrive on the 11pm flight from FLL. Your new scheduled departure time is 1145pm. Since you showed at 515pm, you’re good for 12 hours (contractually downgraded from 14 because your flight touches the 1-5am window of circadian low). So you eventually land in BOS at 447am. Luckily you have a commute that leaves at 6am😀😀😀, so you walk over, check in, and collapse in agony.

Normally, 190 flights are scheduled in before 1am. Then there’s SYR in the winter... the 1am becomes 3am in blinding snow and 40 knot winds. Or, the midnight diversion from BUF to ROC. Repeat after me, “ Chicken wings, and Garbage plate. Chicken wings and Garbage plate...”

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Old 07-01-2021, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Forgotmywallet View Post
Only when your 6pm ATL EWR BOS needs a FADEC component that will arrive on the 11pm flight from FLL. Your new scheduled departure time is 1145pm. Since you showed at 515pm, you’re good for 12 hours (contractually downgraded from 14 because your flight touches the 1-5am window of circadian low). So you eventually land in BOS at 447am. Luckily you have a commute that leaves at 6am😀😀😀, so you walk over, check in, and collapse in agony.

Normally, 190 flights are scheduled in before 1am. Then there’s SYR in the winter... the 1am becomes 3am in blinding snow and 40 knot winds. Or, the midnight diversion from BUF to ROC. Repeat after me, “ Chicken wings, and Garbage plate. Chicken wings and Garbage plate...”
In other words, no.

Thank you.
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Old 07-01-2021, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HwkrPlt View Post
Are there any red eye, or close to red eye, flights on the 190?
I think there used to be one scheduled one on the 190 down in MCO, at least a few years ago. Not sure if it’s still around.
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Old 07-01-2021, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
I think there used to be one scheduled one on the 190 down in MCO, at least a few years ago. Not sure if it’s still around.

We haven’t seen them since covid. It’s always the first thing I look for in the bid packet. Even before they were only seasonal. Nov dec and summer.


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Old 07-01-2021, 03:51 PM
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Boston 190 used to have them but they got in early in the redeye period…so not your true redeye. AUS and PBI turn I’ve done.
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