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Old 11-04-2016, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba View Post
I love when guys are like "Man, you don't even know man!" Or "You want change man, you gotta get out there and do it yourself man!" Or "You don't want ALPA man, you gotta start your own JBLUPA, man!"

My whole point is solidarity. It's so black and white. When negotiating a CBA you don't accept a handout from management.

BlueDork should look up all the people who didn't vote, and give them a refresher course on how to login to b6alpa.org.

-Bubs
Solidarity? You just insinuated the NC is careless with the dues you pay. I haven't volunteered for that job nor would I want it. I'm not smart enough. But have you? You seem to have it all figured out. And as far as I'm concerned, as hard as those guys work for us they're more than welcome to a steak dinner. Hopefully a nice bottle of wine too. You don't like that bub? Then you do it and you can get McDonald's for dinner.
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Solidarity? You just insinuated the NC is careless with the dues you pay. I haven't volunteered for that job nor would I want it. I'm not smart enough. But have you? You seem to have it all figured out. And as far as I'm concerned, as hard as those guys work for us they're more than welcome to a steak dinner. Hopefully a nice bottle of wine too. You don't like that bub? Then you do it and you can get McDonald's for dinner.
RVR,

You prove my point. "Man, you should step up man"

If I'm insulting the NC and ALPA with my dues, perhaps I'll join the "others" who choose not to pay dues.

As soon as ALPA was voted on property I displayed my lanyard and signed up for dues. Everyone said, and I knew, this would be an arduous process. However, they also said we need a CBA and to stop letting the company just make things up and include them into the FOM. Well, the company just made up an 8% raise. I used my vote to reject the carrot. The NC said it was good for us. I'm not sure about that. so, I exercised my paid for voting right to say "NO".

I do like McDonald's and would have no problem ordering a round of #2 Value Meals for myself and the NC. Not Super Sized though, of course.

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Old 11-04-2016, 04:56 PM
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RVR,

You prove my point. "Man, you should step up man"

If I'm insulting the NC and ALPA with my dues, perhaps I'll join the "others" who choose not to pay dues.

As soon as ALPA was voted on property I displayed my lanyard and signed up for dues. Everyone said, and I knew, this would be an arduous process. However, they also said we need a CBA and to stop letting the company just make things up and include them into the FOM. Well, the company just made up an 8% raise. I used my vote to reject the carrot. The NC said it was good for us. I'm not sure about that. so, I exercised my paid for voting right to say "NO".

I do like McDonald's and would have no problem ordering a round of #2 Value Meals for myself and the NC. Not Super Sized though, of course.

-Bubs
I'm a 99er. I disagreed with the vote but understand the policy manual required ALPA to seek pilot group approval. But to then imply the NC is taking advantage of dues money is ridicules.
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Old 11-04-2016, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba View Post
RVR,

You prove my point. "Man, you should step up man"

If I'm insulting the NC and ALPA with my dues, perhaps I'll join the "others" who choose not to pay dues.

As soon as ALPA was voted on property I displayed my lanyard and signed up for dues. Everyone said, and I knew, this would be an arduous process. However, they also said we need a CBA and to stop letting the company just make things up and include them into the FOM. Well, the company just made up an 8% raise. I used my vote to reject the carrot. The NC said it was good for us. I'm not sure about that. so, I exercised my paid for voting right to say "NO".

I do like McDonald's and would have no problem ordering a round of #2 Value Meals for myself and the NC. Not Super Sized though, of course.

-Bubs

So you would have rather taken a pay cut instead of a small pay increase for what....out of principle?

What benefit would that bring you individually or to the pilot group in general?
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Old 11-05-2016, 05:19 AM
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So you would have rather taken a pay cut instead of a small pay increase for what....out of principle?

What benefit would that bring you individually or to the pilot group in general?
The Union! The CBA! It's all principal. If we believed that jblue would always do the best for the pilots we wouldn't have this forum thread. Instead the thread would read: "WHO HAS MORE CUMBYA? Inflight or Pilots.

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Old 11-05-2016, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork View Post
I'm a 99er. I disagreed with the vote but understand the policy manual required ALPA to seek pilot group approval. But to then imply the NC is taking advantage of dues money is ridicules.
Just to be clear the members of the B6 ALPA incident/accident go team - which also includes those that answer the phone 24/7 after you call ALPA national because you've been involved in some event or the company is pressuring you to do something you find unacceptable or unsafe - voluntarily agreed to attend training on days off instead of seeking the standard reimbursement and trip credit so that the money could be directed at other ALPA activities. We're watching pennies.
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Old 11-05-2016, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by P-3Bubba View Post
The Union! The CBA! It's all principal. If we believed that jblue would always do the best for the pilots we wouldn't have this forum thread. Instead the thread would read: "WHO HAS MORE CUMBYA? Inflight or Pilots.

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Inflight. But only BOS.
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:05 AM
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I don't keep up with anything JetBlue related to be honest. I've had 2 jumpseaters from Frontier tell me now that they heard JetBlue is looking at them and is going to buy and merge them together. Does anyone see any likelihood of this?
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:51 AM
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I don't keep up with anything JetBlue related to be honest. I've had 2 jumpseaters from Frontier tell me now that they heard JetBlue is looking at them and is going to buy and merge them together. Does anyone see any likelihood of this?
A guy in my squadron swears a SWA merger is a done deal.
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I don't keep up with anything JetBlue related to be honest. I've had 2 jumpseaters from Frontier tell me now that they heard JetBlue is looking at them and is going to buy and merge them together. Does anyone see any likelihood of this?
There have been numerous sightings of JB executives at F9 HQ over the last few months. Rumor I heard was JB made bid(s) for F9 but they were all rejected. Also, tried to make offers for the F9 Airbus delivery slots since they have tons of NEOs coming much earlier than JB.
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