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Old 06-25-2021 | 04:35 AM
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Anyone know how to fix Flica alert issue. Only getting emails and no text about alerts. Use t mobile service. Do the test message and it comes through. But no text from pairings that go into open time.
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Old 06-25-2021 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by panpanpan
New arbitration update says that while the union is committed to enforcing our contract, they are also following membership direction to obtain career protection.

It sounds like the MEC is merely using the data obtained from pilots which was collected before the recovery. That was a time when furlough was still a threat which makes that data irrelevant as the situation has changed.

It does not sound like they have adjusted their playbook to match reality which would be unfortunate. Perhaps I am reading too much into that one sentence, and I hope I am wrong.

No, you’re not reading too much into it. They didn’t adjust their playbook, it’s ALPA playing par for the course getting steamrolled by the company with a weak MEC. I read the updates and it’s the same thing, we asked so we are waiting on a response from the company to say no.
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Old 06-25-2021 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by citxls
No, you’re not reading too much into it. They didn’t adjust their playbook, it’s ALPA playing par for the course getting steamrolled by the company with a weak MEC. I read the updates and it’s the same thing, we asked so we are waiting on a response from the company to say no.
To fight hard and get a better deal the second go around would wake a huge segment of the pilot group to the concept that further gains can be had by rejecting a first offer.... that creates much more work from a far more demanding pilot group!
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Old 06-25-2021 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Desdi
To fight hard and get a better deal the second go around would wake a huge segment of the pilot group to the concept that further gains can be had by rejecting a first offer.... that creates much more work from a far more demanding pilot group!
Exactly right. At least 40 percent of the pilot group right now: “What labor dispute? I’m gonna not run the APU when it’s 90 degrees out, SETWA, make stand-ups and dumpster-dive because the company had a hard year with COVID. So what if the company is wiping it’s tail with most of our CBA, especially the vaunted Section 1”.
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Old 06-25-2021 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by aewanabe
Exactly right. At least 40 percent of the pilot group right now: “What labor dispute? I’m gonna not run the APU when it’s 90 degrees out, SETWA, make stand-ups and dumpster-dive because the company had a hard year with COVID. So what if the company is wiping it’s tail with most of our CBA, especially the vaunted Section 1”.
This has been pretty much my exact observation.
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Old 06-25-2021 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by citxls
No, you’re not reading too much into it. They didn’t adjust their playbook, it’s ALPA playing par for the course getting steamrolled by the company with a weak MEC. I read the updates and it’s the same thing, we asked so we are waiting on a response from the company to say no.
From the last email, I almost get the feeling our MEC is saying ‘see we told you so…you should have just listened to us and voted for it’. It does not feel like they have our back at all.
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Old 06-25-2021 | 07:40 AM
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Does anyone get the impression that JB are really understaffed currently in terms of pilots?
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Old 06-25-2021 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by aewanabe
Exactly right. At least 40 percent of the pilot group right now: “What labor dispute? I’m gonna not run the APU when it’s 90 degrees out, SETWA, make stand-ups and dumpster-dive because the company had a hard year with COVID. So what if the company is wiping it’s tail with most of our CBA, especially the vaunted Section 1”.

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Old 06-25-2021 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
From the last email, I almost get the feeling our MEC is saying ‘see we told you so…you should have just listened to us and voted for it’. It does not feel like they have our back at all.
I’d rather make an arbitrator break a contract then agree to a one time 2% raise for raping our scope clause. Sets a very bad precedent
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Old 06-27-2021 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
I’d rather make an arbitrator break a contract then agree to a one time 2% raise for raping our scope clause. Sets a very bad precedent
Ironically, it sets an even worse precedent if the arbitrator sides with Jetblue/NEA and against ALPA. Such a ruling would set the precedent that the scope section of an airline CBA can be flagrantly violated by any company as long as it is in the company’s best interests. It essentially guts the scope section of every airline contract.

You’d think ALPA would be pushing harder than it sounds.

This isn’t even a gray area of Section 1. The company is on record saying the scope section needed modifications (LOA13) to make the NEA legal. Then they said they were going ahead with NEA even if we didn’t give them scope concessions. It’s a documented confession of wrongdoing before and after the fact. No way the arbitrator sides with Jetblue in a fair decision.
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