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11-30-2016, 07:17 AM
#1961
What’s it doing now?
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 190CA
Posts: 726
Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
Market Pay = Base Pay + Selling PTO.
Cool now everyone has lower than market base pay.
Nice work!
Only in BlueJet world does selling PTO count and not count at the same time.
Cool now everyone has lower than market base pay.
Nice work!
Only in BlueJet world does selling PTO count and not count at the same time.
11-30-2016, 07:33 AM
#1962
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 591
Originally Posted by Tom a Hawk
You're a moron. I never suggested anything of the sort.
BTW, $218 an hour plus selling the PTO you don't use = nearly DAL 2017 base rate.
The only way this math doesn't square is if you and the company doesn't count $47,000 in PTO sales as money.
With 1500 CA this could reach $70 million a year that we have to pretend does not exist.
11-30-2016, 07:48 AM
#1963
Covfefe
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
Originally Posted by likeitis
Usually I would agree but setting the standard for pay rates on an aircraft on initial contract would be nearly impossible.
11-30-2016, 09:11 AM
#1965
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,236
I'd be fine with either system. Whatever the majority of the group wants is what we'll get. But just so everyone here is 100% clear, selling back PTO at 150% benefits the company way more than the pilot group. So if they'd like to keep it than can negotiate for it.
11-30-2016, 09:37 AM
#1967
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Originally Posted by likeitis
Usually I would agree but setting the standard for pay rates on an aircraft on initial contract would be nearly impossible.
We'll just have to disagree.
If JB stands a chance of attracting and maintaining pilots for the planned growth all aspects of pilot QOL and pay must increase. Call me optimistic.
11-30-2016, 09:39 AM
#1968
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
No one is advocating setting a new standard. Meeting the standard isn't impossible. And currently we are far from the new standard set by SWA/UAL/DAL.
What this guy says
11-30-2016, 09:40 AM
#1969
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
I'd be fine with either system. Whatever the majority of the group wants is what we'll get. But just so everyone here is 100% clear, selling back PTO at 150% benefits the company way more than the pilot group. So if they'd like to keep it than can negotiate for it.
And this guy too!
11-30-2016, 10:17 AM
#1970
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Posts: 1,122
Originally Posted by rvr1800
I'd be fine with either system. Whatever the majority of the group wants is what we'll get. But just so everyone here is 100% clear, selling back PTO at 150% benefits the company way more than the pilot group. So if they'd like to keep it than can negotiate for it.
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