Softpayman

I’ve always heard that SWA pilots were most productive. But that would kinda deflate your argument that we were most productive.

pilotpayne

Again they knew all of this.

Dude you never give the guys credit. Our trans cons sucked they had some of the lowest profit numbers out there. Jetblue took a risk and came up with a product never before done here and it was a success.
You keep saying running out of steam as if mint will just disappear. It’s doing exactly what it was designed to do but since you want to make an argument that it’s failing you keep saying that. Will every mint flight be as profitable as the first .....no and why is that even an issue? A profit is a profit. Pit to Bos is one of our most profitable flights so using your logic if Rdu to Bos isn’t as profitable (but is making money) than it’s a failure. But you are also using the idea that jetblue only wants to fly routes that make them money(earn their place) against them(what a bad idea) And I guess since you avoided this one it’s better to negotiate with a less profitable company for our contract?

As you would say

Otay


I don’t know about you but I want jetblue to be the most profitable they can be because I want that contract, and you can’t claim being poor with our margins even after 2 hurricanes killed a bunch of our flying. It only proves what you know jetblue can afford our contract.

BlueJetDork

Running out of stream.

IOW less opportunity for growth.

Wall St has been all over it.

Which leads back to the original point. We don’t have much direction. But hey we have low cost and high margin.

Bluedriver

Joe, our Mint trans cons have been successful. How will Delta putting Delta One over the top of ours affect that?

CaptCoolHand

JB planes are more productive... our pilots not so much.

BlueJetDork

Define productivity.

Just like profit there are many types of profit margins.

Operational.

EBT

EBIT

Net

Etc.

MIT used to have a chart that showed if Pilot Group A flew Pilot group B block hours what would the cost difference be.

We would kick but!t.

That was not a good thing. We are extremely efficient. See ya at the party so we can celebrate.

Yeah us!!!!

BlueJetDork

Stop being such a drama queer.

Of course Mint has been a success. United did the same thing.

It was Marty's baby at UAL. We are copying a branded product within a brand. UAL had PS and we have Mint.

However the success is limited to certain markets and we are running out of new markets and the markets that we will enter into in the near future we have been told to not expect the same Mint Effect on revenue.

After these markets then what? The Mint bubble has almost run it course (running out of steam) and Wall St has taken note and our stock is floundering.

What is the plan with our high margins low cost structure that was supposed to be a disrupter in the industry.

One poster said to over fly our own routes with more frequency. AKA, kill our our RASM?

We are floundering (original point) but hey we have high margins bought to Wall St via very low costs.

Lets throw a party for ourselves.

denverpilot7

was it confirmed the application window will open up again in december or january?

David Puddy

The E190 is OK for regional routes, but it is an anchor for the operation. Its CASM is too high and its RASM is too limited given its range constraints. SWA has the 737-700 on the lower capacity end which can still fly BWI-PHX as required (flexible) and it is now adding 737-800 MAXs which will be even more efficient as well as flexible in terms of route "optionality." Meanwhile, Spirit and Frontier are using A319s, A320s and A321s to match capacity to demand - and at a lower CASM than JB.

JB needs an E190 replacement which can lower CASM while improving RASM opportunities.

BlueJetDork

Agreed ...

Will it happen?

Probably not. It is easier to make us continue to pay for their decision.