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Old 11-29-2017, 11:21 AM
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Just to let you know FOM/UPM both state that the bomber jacket is still an approved coat to wear from October 1 to whenever..... an email is not a controlling document.


On that note,

Is holiday pay 24 hours? For example... if I have a trip that carries over from xmas even into xmas with 3 hours of block on xmas and then I day sleep and start another pairing that evening, with another 3 hours of block on xmas before midnight, would you get holiday twice? Holiday just for block or better from both pairings?
Yes, double dipping. Last year I did a red eye on NYE from SFO to FLL that departed after midnight NY time. Day sleep 12 hrs then back to JFK all on holiday pay rates. Think it was around 9+ hours.
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Old 11-29-2017, 11:35 AM
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Jelly of the Month club? The gift that keeps giving the whole year Clark...
CWG was lucky to get jelly of the month club, what lame a$$ ebook can we expect this year?
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Old 11-29-2017, 11:52 AM
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CWG was lucky to get jelly of the month club, what lame a$$ ebook can we expect this year?
"How To Be Content Making 30% Less Than Your Peers". *Free Bonus with every copy: Now with free anal donut pillow for when the truth finally sets in.*
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Old 11-29-2017, 12:39 PM
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CWG was lucky to get jelly of the month club, what lame a$$ ebook can we expect this year?
“Living in a mini-van can save you 30%” or “How to become a freegan or dumpster diver: the road to financial independence on 30% less.” You pick.
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Old 11-30-2017, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post



Is holiday pay 24 hours? For example... if I have a trip that carries over from xmas even into xmas with 3 hours of block on xmas and then I day sleep and start another pairing that evening, with another 3 hours of block on xmas before midnight, would you get holiday twice? Holiday just for block or better from both pairings?

The way I interpret it, it's any credit earned between midnight to midnight, at double-time. So yes, double time on credit after midnight 24/25th. Day sleep. Then double credit before midnight 25/26. You'll get a min of 4hrs for at least laying over during Xmas. Reference G.2 in FSM to be sure, I may be mistaken.



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Old 11-30-2017, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by captsurf View Post
The way I interpret it, it's any credit earned between midnight to midnight, at double-time. So yes, double time on credit after midnight 24/25th. Day sleep. Then double credit before midnight 25/26. You'll get a min of 4hrs for at least laying over during Xmas. Reference G.2 in FSM to be sure, I may be mistaken.



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I believe the 4 hours you referenced is for a layover where you are there for the entire calendar day of a holiday but do not actually work that day. For example a 30 hour overnight in CLE. He won’t get both the 4 hours and the block time.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:30 AM
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FSM G8 Special Pay Days.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800 View Post
I believe the 4 hours you referenced is for a layover where you are there for the entire calendar day of a holiday but do not actually work that day. For example a 30 hour overnight in CLE. He won’t get both the 4 hours and the block time.
Thanks, I knew the 4 hours but wasn’t sure what happened if you had two pairings touching the day.
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by captsurf View Post
The way I interpret it, it's any credit earned between midnight to midnight, at double-time. So yes, double time on credit after midnight 24/25th. Day sleep. Then double credit before midnight 25/26. You'll get a min of 4hrs for at least laying over during Xmas. Reference G.2 in FSM to be sure, I may be mistaken.



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^^^this^^^

is correct i believe.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:52 AM
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Are you serious with this? What kind of me first rock have you been living under. You have to be absolutely crazy to think that JB management didn't crush it when it came to helping out crew members in need this fall. Even after being embarrassed all summer with them blaming ATC when we didn't have our own house in order, I am extremely proud of what they're doing to help Puerto Rico and the carribean.

And yeah they paid EARLY profit sharing during a couple years during record profits and decided not to after that rough hurricane season and a likely not good winter vacation season coming up in the carribean. Not he end of the world. And December pto sell back has always had that cap.
I didnt know that management posted on this forum.
Lets hear some more praise for a company that helps out when the cameras roll, but detracts from it's employees qol (health care etc).
Try not to be too proud
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