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Old 12-01-2017, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Rascal View Post
Could not agree more.
No, no, no. You’re doing this all wrong. You’re only options are to call me a management troll, or a tin foil hat wearing “burn it down” union thug. There’s no crying in baseball, on there’s no agreement on Internet forums, juicer!
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by capt707 View Post
He is talking about a stand up, facing pax from the front of the cabin PA announcement with the same speech and jokes you have to listen to during a 4 day trip.

On a recent commute on us, the CA was at the door at boarding, helping people to their seats, gate checking bags!! and wanted go be the hero retrieving a left behind laptop at TSA. He was pushing wheel chairs upon arrival and had blue gloves on before I even got out of my seat. He was a check airman, but clearly also wants to be a FA, gate agent and wheelchair pusher.

Utter embarrassment! Have some f'ing pride in your profession!
I totally missed this one. Whoosh. Right over head. I was like,”stand ups?” I haven’t done those since ACA in 2002!

PAs. Got it. My experience (3 yrs this month) is that I have not seen a face to face pax announcement since the week after my IOE. Seriously. I can’t recall in the last three years how many times I’ve seen one. 3 maybe.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
I totally missed this one. Whoosh. Right over head. I was like,”stand ups?” I haven’t done those since ACA in 2002!

PAs. Got it. My experience (3 yrs this month) is that I have not seen a face to face pax announcement since the week after my IOE. Seriously. I can’t recall in the last three years how many times I’ve seen one. 3 maybe.
You don’t fly with Bill Craine, then.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:32 AM
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How’s the waiting for the FAs to “buzz” before push going? I’ve seen 3 distinct behaviors when they don’t/forget to call. 1. We’re gonna sit here all night until they call. 2. Call for push, I don’t care what’s going on back there. 3. Call them and see if they’re ready. I’d say number 1 is the most prevalent, followed by 2.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
How’s the waiting for the FAs to “buzz” before push going? I’ve seen 3 distinct behaviors when they don’t/forget to call. 1. We’re gonna sit here all night until they call. 2. Call for push, I don’t care what’s going on back there. 3. Call them and see if they’re ready. I’d say number 1 is the most prevalent, followed by 2.
#1= burn it down
#2= get the out time at all costs
#3= reasonable man solution, therefore most rare.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
PAs. Got it. My experience (3 yrs this month) is that I have not seen a face to face pax announcement since the week after my IOE. Seriously. I can’t recall in the last three years how many times I’ve seen one. 3 maybe.
My commute and deadheads are mostly on the 190, and I see a standup PA almost every flight, also a lot more blue gloving going on.
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Old 12-01-2017, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy View Post
The thing is that the company will suck all your compassion right out of you, little by little.

The big problem now is that more and more pilots have their GAS meters pegged at or below zero. The longer the company drags out contract negotiations, the more pilots get to a point of no return. Their GAS meters will be permanently damaged. That would be bad news for a company that prides itself on customer relations.

Contract Above All.

Gup

JFK320FO here and this is what I’ve seen with the VAST majority of Captains I’ve flown with... Completely understandable. Only gonna get worse until we get the contract we have earned/deserve!
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by capt707 View Post
My commute and deadheads are mostly on the 190, and I see a standup PA almost every flight, also a lot more blue gloving going on.
Yup

Stereotypes exist for a reason
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by capt707 View Post
My commute and deadheads are mostly on the 190, and I see a standup PA almost every flight, also a lot more blue gloving going on.
I pull gear on the 190 in kennedy and rarely have lanyardless captains, and even more rarely do I have a captain do a standup. I’d put it at 10% maybe. I see WAY more lanyardless pilots and standups operating and riding on my 320 commute. You guys saying this 190 crap are out of your mind and delusional. Unless I just coincidentally happen to fly with an abnormally high percentage of lanyard wearers and commute on a disproportionately high number of lanyardless pilots flights, as well as abnormal interaction swapping planes, in the crew room, terminal, and when they nonrev and say hi on flights I’m operating. I bet Ford Harrison has the true breakdown and I’m guessing it’s irrelevant to equipment.
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Old 12-01-2017, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
I pull gear on the 190 in kennedy and rarely have lanyardless captains, and even more rarely do I have a captain do a standup. I’d put it at 10% maybe. I see WAY more lanyardless pilots and standups operating and riding on my 320 commute. You guys saying this 190 crap are out of your mind and delusional. Unless I just coincidentally happen to fly with an abnormally high percentage of lanyard wearers and commute on a disproportionately high number of lanyardless pilots flights, as well as abnormal interaction swapping planes, in the crew room, terminal, and when they nonrev and say hi on flights I’m operating. I bet Ford Harrison has the true breakdown and I’m guessing it’s irrelevant to equipment.
I'm very new and recently finished CKS on the 190 in BOS. I have yet to fly with a CA who didn't do a standup PA.

My sample size is roughly 15 pilots, but they are out there.
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