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Old 12-01-2017, 02:06 PM
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Both fleets have their hero’s. Just shake head and walk away.

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Old 12-01-2017, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
How’s the waiting for the FAs to “buzz” before push going? I’ve seen 3 distinct behaviors when they don’t/forget to call. 1. We’re gonna sit here all night until they call. 2. Call for push, I don’t care what’s going on back there. 3. Call them and see if they’re ready. I’d say number 1 is the most prevalent, followed by 2.
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
I pull gear on the 190 in kennedy and rarely have lanyardless captains, and even more rarely do I have a captain do a standup. I’d put it at 10% maybe. I see WAY more lanyardless pilots and standups operating and riding on my 320 commute. You guys saying this 190 crap are out of your mind and delusional. Unless I just coincidentally happen to fly with an abnormally high percentage of lanyard wearers and commute on a disproportionately high number of lanyardless pilots flights, as well as abnormal interaction swapping planes, in the crew room, terminal, and when they nonrev and say hi on flights I’m operating. I bet Ford Harrison has the true breakdown and I’m guessing it’s irrelevant to equipment.
I'm a BOS 190 Guy and I'm gonna second this, sort of. I had a CA do one recently and it was the first time in months. I also commute on 320s, but I haven't really seen anyone doing them there, though. I had a CA when I first started that put it very simply... He didn't want to star in anyone's YouTube post.
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Old 12-01-2017, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB View Post
I'm very new and recently finished CKS on the 190 in BOS. I have yet to fly with a CA who didn't do a standup PA.

My sample size is roughly 15 pilots, but they are out there.
Ya Boston 190 captains are higher. My commute to bos on the bus is mostly all day trippers so most do stand ups and half are lanyardless. (Captains, no the fo normally)
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:53 PM
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I can say 100% of the stand ups drop the brake before we are cleared to push. Which of course I have a problem with. Just speak up about not being SOP and things will change. Also I’ve witnessed on my last 2 trips captains going back to Mint and greeting each pax personally. Anyone else seeing this? Just can’t believe after this summer and profit sharing being cut there’s people out there that think they’re gonna get something in return for going above and beyond
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Old 12-02-2017, 02:32 AM
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I can say 100% of the stand ups drop the brake before we are cleared to push. Which of course I have a problem with. Just speak up about not being SOP and things will change. Also I’ve witnessed on my last 2 trips captains going back to Mint and greeting each pax personally. Anyone else seeing this? Just can’t believe after this summer and profit sharing being cut there’s people out there that think they’re gonna get something in return for going above and beyond
Yep. It's hard to watch the operation melting around us and the captain feels it's his job to do everything above and beyond to do his best to get it back on track. I say let the wheels fall off and maybe they will realize you are important.
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Old 12-02-2017, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by pugpilot View Post
Yup

Stereotypes exist for a reason

I'm a JFK 320 FO and have flown with 3 non member, stand up PA, blue glove wearing Captains this month.
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Old 12-02-2017, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Steelers View Post
I'm a JFK 320 FO and have flown with 3 non member, stand up PA, blue glove wearing Captains this month.
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Old 12-02-2017, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
How’s the waiting for the FAs to “buzz” before push going? I’ve seen 3 distinct behaviors when they don’t/forget to call. 1. We’re gonna sit here all night until they call. 2. Call for push, I don’t care what’s going on back there. 3. Call them and see if they’re ready. I’d say number 1 is the most prevalent, followed by 2.


4- Well, they're in the middle of their safety demo. Sure would hate to call them and interrupt....


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Old 12-02-2017, 04:37 PM
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I would say if they are into their safety demo they are ready.....


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