ULCC Model in the U.S.
11-06-2019, 04:08 PM
#61
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Originally Posted by nkbux
Really? What’s is spirits completion/A14 compared to the legacies?
11-06-2019, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Peacock
I think you’re missing my point. Airlines with hubs and extensive networks can cancel flights and still get passengers to their destinations. An airline with only one or two flights per day from a city is tough to recover from if something goes wrong. If there was something really important for me to get to, I wouldn’t choose the ULCC with low frequency. If saving money is the top priority, then sure.
11-06-2019, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nkbux
Really? What’s is spirits completion/A14 compared to the legacies?
Delta beats us, but they beat almost everyone because they overblock their flights so they can appease and keep the business flyers (as it was explained). They are paying for it essentially.
About 2 years ago NK launched the “Invest in the Guest” initiative. Since then CF, On Time Dept and A14 has increased dramatically.
11-06-2019, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
I don’t have the graph in front of me, but you will be surprised to know, (as of the last year and a half or so) we are consistently better than United and AA most quarters now.
Delta beats us, but they beat almost everyone because they overblock their flights so they can appease and keep the business flyers (as it was explained). They are paying for it essentially.
About 2 years ago NK launched the “Invest in the Guest” initiative. Since then CF, On Time Dept and A14 has increased dramatically.
Delta beats us, but they beat almost everyone because they overblock their flights so they can appease and keep the business flyers (as it was explained). They are paying for it essentially.
About 2 years ago NK launched the “Invest in the Guest” initiative. Since then CF, On Time Dept and A14 has increased dramatically.
So in short, she didn’t invest in the guest, we started to do what other airlines do
11-07-2019, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
I remember reading that frontier struggles with transcons in the winter time due to packing them in there like sardines.
11-07-2019, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
I remember reading that frontier struggles with transcons in the winter time due to packing them in there like sardines.
11-07-2019, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
I read that as well, but it doesn’t make much sense with their current layout. The XLR will have reduced cargo capability due to the extra tank. So if you try to put 230 pax (F9’s 321 config) in the cabin I can’t see how there would be room for bags as well.
11-07-2019, 06:09 AM
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LCC's actually do better when the cost of fuel goes higher. The legacies raise ticket prices to cover costs but since the spread between ticket price is how LCC's make money, with their CASM being half of the legacies, they make bank. Just go back in history over the past five years or so.
When oil prices fell the LCC's started to feel the squeeze from the legacies who were able to discount their tickets more to better compete.
When oil prices fell the LCC's started to feel the squeeze from the legacies who were able to discount their tickets more to better compete.
11-07-2019, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
I remember reading that frontier struggles with transcons in the winter time due to packing them in there like sardines.
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