Originally Posted by GA2Jets

Having money shouldn't be a qualification to become a pilot.

Originally Posted by LabDad06

It isn't simply a question of qualifications. Have you considered that many women have no desire to be pilots? That they do not value a long term career that takes them away from home and away from their families?

I was texting a friend about a week ago if she was going to pursue becoming an architect, which was originally her dream job. She's in a related field now with enough experience in her position to be able to become an architect without needing additional schooling, just a few tests/exams. She said "not sure if I want it enough... being an architect takes me away from family, mentally and physically. I want to be here for my girls as much as I can. A job I can leave at 4:30 each day and not stress about too much after hours is best for me and my family."


Preschool and kindergarten teachers 97.5% women
Speech language pathologists 97.5% women
Dental hygienists 97.1% women
Secretaries and admin assistants 94.6% women
Childcare workers 94.4% women
Nurse practitioners 94% women
Dental assistants 93.3% women
Medial assistants 92.9% women
Hairdressers, cosmetologists 92.4% women
Medical records and heath ITs 92.1% women
Payroll and timekeeping clerks 90.7% women
Receptionists and information clerks 90.1% women
Registered nurses 90% women
Licensed practical and licensed vocational nurses 90% women
Chart: The percentage of women and men in each profession - The Boston Globe

Are men not qualified to do these jobs? Some are good, high paying careers. Or do they choose not to do them?

Originally Posted by GA2Jets

Somewhere around 5% of pilots are women. So if someone has an explanation for why that is simply inevitable that, I'd love to hear it. It bears considering, why is that the case? It has to do with representation, informing people about being pilots, fighting some ingrained stereotypes, and yes in some cases money.

If it were more like 40% of pilots were women, we might be having a different discussion. But I don't know how anyone can justify the number being that low as being simply a question of qualifications, as if women can't get qualified inherently. The same goes for people of color.

Originally Posted by GA2Jets

Why do women inherently, and solely as a result of having female physiology, prefer not to have careers that take them away from home. Yet men, solely as a result of physiology, don't mind as much. Which immutable characteristic creates that discrepancy? Or is it possible that our society expects this from women, to be caretakers and not pursue careers, to not imagine themselves in aircraft or policing or military like we do men.

I'd say yes! Better gender equality among all those professions you mentioned would be better. More men elementary teachers yes yes yes.

Originally Posted by GA2Jets

Why do women inherently, and solely as a result of having female physiology, prefer not to have careers that take them away from home. Yet men, solely as a result of physiology, don't mind as much. Which immutable characteristic creates that discrepancy? Or is it possible that our society expects this from women, to be caretakers and not pursue careers, to not imagine themselves in aircraft or policing or military like we do men.

I'd say yes! Better gender equality among all those professions you mentioned would be better. More men elementary teachers yes yes yes.

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

Why is that necessarily a bad thing?

Only 9% of nurses are men. Should we do something about that?

If you watched the video of Jordan Peterson he explains with insightful clarity why people choose various occupations. And there is very little we can do about it. Ask the Swedes -- the most progressive people on the face of the planet -- what happened after they tried to engineer their society based on gender equity in various occupations. (Hint: 20 years later the results were the exact opposite of what left-leaning social scientists had predicted.)

I'd like to see an example of a high school teacher or principal admonishing a talented, driven student that they "can't be a pilot (lawyer, doctor ...)"

Let people do their own thing.

Originally Posted by KSwift76

I haven't seen a talented, driven student not be told he can't be a "pilot, doctor lawyer, etc...", but I have seen a guidance counselor walk into a classroom at a DOD school and give college and scholarship information to only officers kids and white kids while giving black kids information for taking the asvab to enlist in the army. Subtle, but with the same intent and results. It does happen.

Originally Posted by LabDad06

Are you saying women can't make decisions on their own and it is society that dictates what they do and what they become, above their own desires and passions? It isn't society that expects my friend to put her family over her career, it is her personal choice because that is what she values most.

As for more men as elementary teachers, why? If they don't desire to do it, they wouldn't be good at it. Ever been stuck in a job you hate? Some careers appeal to the sexes differently and there is nothing wrong with that. Men and women are not the same no matter what the woke left tries to tell you. They're not better or worse, they're just different and that's okay. Now if women want to do jobs traditionally held by men, or if men want to become teachers and nurses, great! If that's where your passion takes you by your own personal choice, I'm all for it.

Originally Posted by GA2Jets

Bingo.

Find me the immutable reason people of color chose to not be pilots 6 times less than white people and I'll be satisfied. Otherwise, I believe it's mostly due to our expectations of what POC and women 'ought' to do.