United diversity.......
#61
I thought it didn’t matter anymore since there is no difference between male and female?
Anyway, it has been shown that reducing entry requirements for specific groups proved counterproductive at Harvard for example. You can’t reduce the course content or pressure or brain power needed to complete the course of education, thus many of those people that get in the door have a constant struggle to keep up.
Just because you lower the entry level standards doesn’t mean the level of competency will be just as high. And competency in an airplane is directly proportional to the level of safety.
Are the Navy SEALs going to lower standards? I doubt it.
Aviation is very specific. It’s a lifestyle that doesn’t work for many many people. If you just want the money but hate the job, why do it?
By all means, encourage everyone to explore aviation.
Anyway, it has been shown that reducing entry requirements for specific groups proved counterproductive at Harvard for example. You can’t reduce the course content or pressure or brain power needed to complete the course of education, thus many of those people that get in the door have a constant struggle to keep up.
Just because you lower the entry level standards doesn’t mean the level of competency will be just as high. And competency in an airplane is directly proportional to the level of safety.
Are the Navy SEALs going to lower standards? I doubt it.
Aviation is very specific. It’s a lifestyle that doesn’t work for many many people. If you just want the money but hate the job, why do it?
By all means, encourage everyone to explore aviation.
#62
Nonsense Spewer
Joined: Jun 2015
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From: In the corner using a lampshade as a hat.
I remember some guy saying we should judge people based on their character or something instead of skin color but we've gotten so brave and stunning we decided immutable traits are the best way to judge someone. Yay for progress!
#63
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2019
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I thought it didn’t matter anymore since there is no difference between male and female?
Anyway, it has been shown that reducing entry requirements for specific groups proved counterproductive at Harvard for example. You can’t reduce the course content or pressure or brain power needed to complete the course of education, thus many of those people that get in the door have a constant struggle to keep up.
Just because you lower the entry level standards doesn’t mean the level of competency will be just as high. And competency in an airplane is directly proportional to the level of safety.
Are the Navy SEALs going to lower standards? I doubt it.
Aviation is very specific. It’s a lifestyle that doesn’t work for many many people. If you just want the money but hate the job, why do it?
By all means, encourage everyone to explore aviation.
Anyway, it has been shown that reducing entry requirements for specific groups proved counterproductive at Harvard for example. You can’t reduce the course content or pressure or brain power needed to complete the course of education, thus many of those people that get in the door have a constant struggle to keep up.
Just because you lower the entry level standards doesn’t mean the level of competency will be just as high. And competency in an airplane is directly proportional to the level of safety.
Are the Navy SEALs going to lower standards? I doubt it.
Aviation is very specific. It’s a lifestyle that doesn’t work for many many people. If you just want the money but hate the job, why do it?
By all means, encourage everyone to explore aviation.
#64
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2020
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It's easy to get into, easy to leave, and for most female flight attendants I know, it is temporary. Do it for a few years, have fun, travel and use the benefits, and do something else. Or they're older and their kids have moved away. Do some women make a career of it? Yes. As do some women as pilots.
#65
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Joined: Jul 2018
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Diversity isn’t our greatest strength as a nation, uniformity is. Or at least it was. Uniformity of people who value the principles of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Uniformity in the recognition of a limited government restrained by the consent of the governed, whose citizens are neither owned nor owed.
The fact that this uniformity occurs on a political/philosophical level allows for diversity on a physical level. But diversity of races, religions, ethnicities, etc means nothing if the values of said people dont mesh on a foundational level.
The fact that this uniformity occurs on a political/philosophical level allows for diversity on a physical level. But diversity of races, religions, ethnicities, etc means nothing if the values of said people dont mesh on a foundational level.
This was my main point...... I have little doubt our strife is being fueled by external sources and our “diversity” is what is enabling them to cause our national self immolation.
#66
You all do realize that everyone selected into this Aviate Academy program starts from the same exact experience level, nothing... The “hire the most qualified candidate” argument is not valid in this instance since everyone will have 0 experience like we all did starting our flight training.
Narrowing the barrier to entry gap some communities face to get into this profession is not a bad thing.
Narrowing the barrier to entry gap some communities face to get into this profession is not a bad thing.
#68
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Joined: Jul 2008
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Men are more interested in things; less interested in people and relationships.
If you give people the freedom of choice, women will disproportionately choose careers and activities that involve dealing with people and forming relationships. Men will disproportionately choose things.
Women are taking over in healthcare. They've always been the vast majority of nurses and techs but now they are the majority in everything including Nurse Practitioners and Doctors.
Women who want to travel see the mostly non-technical flight attendant job as more attractive because it deals with people and relationships. Men are more often attracted to the technical aspects of piloting or being an aviation mechanic.
#69
Women are more interested in people and relationships; less interested in things.
Men are more interested in things; less interested in people and relationships.
If you give people the freedom of choice, women will disproportionately choose careers and activities that involve dealing with people and forming relationships. Men will disproportionately choose things.
Women are taking over in healthcare. They've always been the vast majority of nurses and techs but now they are the majority in everything including Nurse Practitioners and Doctors.
Women who want to travel see the mostly non-technical flight attendant job as more attractive because it deals with people and relationships. Men are more often attracted to the technical aspects of piloting or being an aviation mechanic.
Men are more interested in things; less interested in people and relationships.
If you give people the freedom of choice, women will disproportionately choose careers and activities that involve dealing with people and forming relationships. Men will disproportionately choose things.
Women are taking over in healthcare. They've always been the vast majority of nurses and techs but now they are the majority in everything including Nurse Practitioners and Doctors.
Women who want to travel see the mostly non-technical flight attendant job as more attractive because it deals with people and relationships. Men are more often attracted to the technical aspects of piloting or being an aviation mechanic.
#70
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Joined: Jul 2018
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So this begs the question was United up until this change racist and sexist in their hiring practices previously OR were they hiring the best qualified candidate for the position? It’s one or the other!
Instead of concentrating on equality of outcome let’s expand equality of opportunity, cast a wide net on the candidate pipelines, but when it comes to the hiring boards, and in the sim gender and race should not be considered, it should be sink or swim.
Instead of concentrating on equality of outcome let’s expand equality of opportunity, cast a wide net on the candidate pipelines, but when it comes to the hiring boards, and in the sim gender and race should not be considered, it should be sink or swim.
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