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Old 02-06-2011 | 04:05 AM
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Oh ok thanks. I agree we need all these jets at mainline.
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Old 02-06-2011 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Good catch, Carl! I would have totally missed that as my copy of that magazine goes directly into the trash as soon as I note the RJ pilot of the month on the front cover.
Don't toss this one. Moak's statements are considerable throughout this issue. And nowhere in it does he talk about the majors' reversing the trend of outsourcing. As usual, he does not list Scope anywhere in his list of threats to our industry.

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Old 02-06-2011 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Don't toss this one. Moak's statements are considerable throughout this issue. And nowhere in it does he talk about the majors' reversing the trend of outsourcing. As usual, he does not list Scope anywhere in his list of threats to our industry.

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Thanks for the heads up. I don't think I've received my copy yet. I'll take a look. Thanks.
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Old 02-06-2011 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Don't toss this one. Moak's statements are considerable throughout this issue. And nowhere in it does he talk about the majors' reversing the trend of outsourcing. As usual, he does not list Scope anywhere in his list of threats to our industry.

Carl
Dude, he starts off his Q&A talking specifically about Scope...

Air Line Pilot: What, in your view, are the greatest threats facing the U.S. and Canadian airline industries?

Moak: EMIRATES—and other airlines with similar business models. These companies are well-funded and don’t have to live by the same rules as our airlines.

U.S. and Canadian airlines can compete with any carriers in the world, but we must establish a strategic plan to level the playing field. It is imperative that we develop a cooperative relationship among regulators, management, and labor and shape the direction in which globalization will materialize on our continent.

The number of Open Skies agreements is expanding exponentially. The U.S. is now a party to almost 100 Open Skies agreements. Globalization is here to stay. Within these agreements there are several facts that we need to accept: government-supported airlines throughout the world have an economic advantage; there are countries that outlaw the unionization of airline employees; and not all Open Skies agreements are created equal. With that in mind, we need to ensure that our contracts, our safety standards, and our flying are not negatively affected.
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Old 02-06-2011 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 0RAC
Dude, he starts off his Q&A talking specifically about Scope...

Air Line Pilot: What, in your view, are the greatest threats facing the U.S. and Canadian airline industries?

Moak: EMIRATES—and other airlines with similar business models. These companies are well-funded and don’t have to live by the same rules as our airlines.

U.S. and Canadian airlines can compete with any carriers in the world, but we must establish a strategic plan to level the playing field. It is imperative that we develop a cooperative relationship among regulators, management, and labor and shape the direction in which globalization will materialize on our continent.

The number of Open Skies agreements is expanding exponentially. The U.S. is now a party to almost 100 Open Skies agreements. Globalization is here to stay. Within these agreements there are several facts that we need to accept: government-supported airlines throughout the world have an economic advantage; there are countries that outlaw the unionization of airline employees; and not all Open Skies agreements are created equal. With that in mind, we need to ensure that our contracts, our safety standards, and our flying are not negatively affected.
ORAC;

I read the passage several times. Please point out the part where scope is discussed.
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Old 02-06-2011 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
ORAC;

I read the passage several times. Please point out the part where scope is discussed.
Scambo, I agree. I see no statement on scope there. Sorry ORAC.
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Old 02-06-2011 | 12:27 PM
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Perhaps cabotage rather then scope. If cabotage is allowed, RJ's are the LEAST of our problems.
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Old 02-06-2011 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Perhaps cabotage rather then scope. If cabotage is allowed, RJ's are the LEAST of our problems.

O yeah, There's globalizationn, cabotage, and (frankly) the weakness of the negotiating position of our federal gov't in the first part, just no scope. IOW the threats are things we cannot control...lets lay awake at night.
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Old 02-06-2011 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Perhaps cabotage rather then scope. If cabotage is allowed, RJ's are the LEAST of our problems.
If the word "cabotage" is even mentioned in DC, we will really see what LM is made of. Personally, that is cause for a national SOS.. period.. no discussion.
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Old 02-06-2011 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
If the word "cabotage" is even mentioned in DC, we will really see what LM is made of. Personally, that is cause for a national SOS.. period.. no discussion.

Word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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