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Old 08-10-2011, 11:48 AM
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Sailing;

Do you think ALPA has a conflict of interest with regard to regionals and majors?

Do you think I blamed ALPA for 911 and the Gulf wars?
There is certainly a conflict. However I have know those who worked on the highest levels in contract negotiations. I have asked many times if ALPA national ever tried to interfere in our contract talks. The answer was always never. Alpa is a associations. DALPA is my union. The vast majority of pilots doing union work return to the line to work under the agreements they help complete.
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Yep... note how many resolutions passed recently have simply been tabled or even shot down in recent months.

And the cards keep rolling into the DPA and ALPA wonders why....
The membership at large has COMPLETELY lost their faith in how the process works. EVERY ALPA announcement goes in the trash and is treated with utter skepticism, at least in my obersvation.

The relentless bleating by the DALPA Illuminati versus the DPA and others who dare voice an opinion is nothing but cover fire for a administration that considers the membership opinion as COMPLETELY irrelevant.

They are desperate to try to contain the leaks in the dike. PtP and the uptick in propoganda efforts are just fingers in the dike (along with the one's in their ears) and attempts to deflect attention away from ANY change in the power structure.

Why do you think the IDEA of the DPA holds sway with approaching one third of the pilot group? Everybody knows whats going on with the NC, and the pitiful "all is well" nonsense just makes them look even more ridiculous.

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Old 08-10-2011, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy View Post
The membership at large has COMPLETELY lost their faith in how the process works. EVERY ALPA announcement goes in the trash and is treated with utter skepticism, at least in my obersvation.

The relentless bleating by the DALPA Illuminati versus the DPA and others who dare voice an opinion is nothing but cover fire for a administration that considers the membership opinion as COMPLETELY irrelevant.

They are desperate to try to contain the leaks in the dike. PtP and the uptick in propoganda efforts are just fingers in the dike (along with the one's in their ears) and attempts to deflect attention away from ANY change in the power structure.

Why do you think the IDEA of the DPA holds sway with approaching one third of the pilot group? Everybody knows whats going on with the NC, and the pitiful "all is well" nonsense just makes them look even more ridiculous.

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All very true. It's rare these days to fly with a guy that has much if any faith in the ALPA process and structure.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
All very true. It's rare these days to fly with a guy that has much if any faith in the ALPA process and structure.
From what I've seen, it's been rare ever since our company came out of bankruptcy and we did not.
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:19 PM
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From what I've seen, it's been rare ever since our company came out of bankruptcy and we did not.
True!

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Old 08-10-2011, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy View Post
The membership at large has COMPLETELY lost their faith in how the process works. EVERY ALPA announcement goes in the trash and is treated with utter skepticism, at least in my obersvation.

The relentless bleating by the DALPA Illuminati versus the DPA and others who dare voice an opinion is nothing but cover fire for a administration that considers the membership opinion as COMPLETELY irrelevant.

They are desperate to try to contain the leaks in the dike. PtP and the uptick in propoganda efforts are just fingers in the dike (along with the one's in their ears) and attempts to deflect attention away from ANY change in the power structure.

Why do you think the IDEA of the DPA holds sway with approaching one third of the pilot group? Everybody knows whats going on with the NC, and the pitiful "all is well" nonsense just makes them look even more ridiculous.

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Absolutely spot on Nu!

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Old 08-10-2011, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Your previous post stated legality. Now you state that your source is the OPINION of a partisan ALPA type. That opinion is worthless in court without a legal statute to back it up. If ALPA thinks they can just keep the money from Delta pilots, they'll be sued again. The much larger issue is why ALPA would use this as handcuffs to stop the will of Delta pilots.

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I heard your own legal counsel confirmed this OPINION to be 100% TRUE today in Hooterville. Care to comment on that?
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Yep... note how many resolutions passed recently have simply been tabled or even shot down in recent months.

And the cards keep rolling into the DPA and ALPA wonders why....
That's the alley cat analogy again where the cat laments "what the hell did I do to deserve all these kittens?"
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
My prediction is that the ALPA guys will do just what they did at the first ATL event. Taking pictures and other disruptive activities. They'll attempt to clog up the Q and A session with self serving loaded questions designed only to show that DPA is not viable because they couldn't even handle a group of ALPA thugs.

ALPA cannot win this on their record and on the facts. Their only hope is to instill doubt through fear and confusion. Count on it.

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More predictions from Carl. I'm surprised you left the jackboots out. Oh, wait. None of that happened, again. Room for 150 pilots x 2 and they barely had enough to eat two dozen donuts. Ouch!

I heard if the ALPA guys hadn't been there they wouldn't have even had a quorum. Is that really true. The avalanche is snowballing and the proof is the oversold ATL meeting? Roll up the sidewalks kids!
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Old 08-10-2011, 12:45 PM
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The many moods of an ALPA rep:

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