TheManager

^^^ Well, how about the local reps that get hamstrung by our own MEC? How many resolutions as of late get made and sent up only to be tabled or "received."

ACL, you talk about making changings to the existing structure of DALPA. How well has that worked so far? How well have our concerns been received in Herndon? Have they even been heard. Quite frankly, the arrogance oozing out of National is eye watering.

Ask yourself, can you afford NOT to explore an other option? Do you feel comfortable putting your future in Prater's, Moaks, or whom ever else is in charge at ALPA N or DALPA hands.

Carl Spackler

Been tried before and failed. Like any massive bureaucracy, it knows how to survive above all else. Dead weight stays dead weight in ALPA. Decades of evidence proves that.

Carl

acl65pilot

Carl;
When ppl as so many questions I respond. Sorry you see it as a manifesto, but that is how I see it. I would love to have my fears proved wrong.

If you do not like Partter, and I am not saying I do, then demand your reps get rid of him and anyone else up there. Tell them who to vote for. I much prefer the campaign be public for all of the pilots to see and weigh in on. I wish all of the other candidates would court the rank and file.

I do not disagree that National is bloated. Actually, they just have not seen the same cut backs we have, and any politician should know that this never sits will with the joe citizens.

Like I have said before do not throw the baby out with the bath water.

Carl Spackler

Pure speculation on your part, but I know you know that. I speculate that DAL pilots will do a great job of representation once freed from national by-laws that do nothing but keep good reps hamstrung.

Carl

Eric Stratton

This is complete BS!

No regional has come in and taken any flying that you at the majors haven't given up.

acl65pilot

Carl; those jobs would not have been there if we would not have sold them. Plain and simple. That is the inconvenient truth.

The Manager:
Why? Because it is my honest belief that Pratter will not win. If he does, I may have issues with the process and direction. I am not hanging my star of that man, Last I checked there are three more ppl running and they are all viable candidates. I cannot predict the outcome of this election cycle, but I am willing to bet that after Pratter's performance, that he is not even in the running.

I get the impression from talking to our fellow pilots around the country that they see what many here see, and the current direction will not continue. Rhetoric is great but it normally has no traction, and traction is what pilots want. I beleive that many of the other candidates get that.

Carl;
On your last post, if it survives it is because it knows how to read the prevailing winds and will adjust accordingly.

Carl Spackler

It is no such thing. It is Major's Assured Destruction. As long as there are pilots willing to fly for starvation wages, no flying is safe. The only destruction will be regionals performing all majors flying, and major pilots deciding whether they want to fly for the only folks doing any flying...the regionals. And the best part will be, the formerly major pilots who decide to do this will do so at the bottom of the list. Still think it's Mutually Assured Destruction?

The cliches' keep on coming from you today...don't they.

Carl

Check Essential

Except the dues will be half what they are now. That's the reward.
Serious money.
Southwest and American pilots pay half what we pay.

acl65pilot

Carl;
Will guys like you step up and make sure that the same positions and ideals do not get forwarded to the new association after its founders has lost favor? If not after one or two cycles we will be back and the same place we are at. This is of course if we are not O.B.E before then.

acl65pilot

Because they get to use the coattails of ALPA for many things. Kill ALPA and that will change because the coattails will no longer be there. They too benefit from ALPA if they or you admit it or not.