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11-11-2014 | 07:23 AM
#9521
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Joined: Jul 2010
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From: window seat
You need not bargain for any scope going forward. Just keep scope exactly where it is and regionals will fade and you'll solve the pilot shortage.
As fun as it will be to see them pathetically flail around trashing yields and trying to re-invent the wheel with the C-Series/Mitsubishi/Sukohi/next big thing, the last thing we need to be doing is partially subsidizing them in any way.
11-11-2014 | 07:28 AM
#9522
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Joined: Apr 2011
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Let's face it.. ALPA sucks like a mofo, regardless of who hates them.. Regardless of how many people they screw over and poison with bitterness. They are just a group of self described elitists that are afraid to fly or just don't like flying the line. ALPA leaders found a way to make more money, wear suits, and eat free escargot.
It happens at every union. Every pilot group has its share of sell outs that gravitate to the largesse. The more bureaucratic layers to a union, the more largesse to scope out (pun intended).
It happens at every union. Every pilot group has its share of sell outs that gravitate to the largesse. The more bureaucratic layers to a union, the more largesse to scope out (pun intended).
11-11-2014 | 08:05 AM
#9523
Line Holder
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 308
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From: ATL 330 A
National meddling is what caused the American pilots to leave ALPA in 1963 - I don't believe the lesson is lost on anyone. "Meet and confer" all you want.
11-11-2014 | 09:59 AM
#9524
Da Hudge
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Poodle Whisperer
The point I'm trying to demonstrate is that the ALPA National President's signature is the overriding signature.
The relationships between Delta and it's regionals are more direct than DALPA, UALPA, and JALPA.
You need not bargain for any scope going forward. Just keep scope exactly where it is and regionals will fade and you'll solve the pilot shortage.
The relationships between Delta and it's regionals are more direct than DALPA, UALPA, and JALPA.
You need not bargain for any scope going forward. Just keep scope exactly where it is and regionals will fade and you'll solve the pilot shortage.
Maybe later another entity will come along that has a real plan, but to come on here spouting what you are is ignorant to the current situation.
11-11-2014 | 01:48 PM
#9525
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Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 335
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Let's face it.. ALPA sucks like a mofo, regardless of who hates them.. Regardless of how many people they screw over and poison with bitterness. They are just a group of self described elitists that are afraid to fly or just don't like flying the line. ALPA leaders found a way to make more money, wear suits, and eat free escargot.
It happens at every union. Every pilot group has its share of sell outs that gravitate to the largesse. The more bureaucratic layers to a union, the more largesse to scope out (pun intended).
It happens at every union. Every pilot group has its share of sell outs that gravitate to the largesse. The more bureaucratic layers to a union, the more largesse to scope out (pun intended).
11-12-2014 | 09:11 AM
#9526
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Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 946
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From: Right Seat 744
The point we're trying to demonstrate is that the DPA as it is is dead. They had a real chance a few years ago but it was squandered. Every last holdout supporter on here has given up the ghost. There are only a few stalwarts remaining on a private delta pilots forum.
Maybe later another entity will come along that has a real plan, but to come on here spouting what you are is ignorant to the current situation.
Maybe later another entity will come along that has a real plan, but to come on here spouting what you are is ignorant to the current situation.
11-13-2014 | 01:50 AM
#9527
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Joined: May 2010
Posts: 269
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From: 7ERA
Press to test with a Delta PWA, why dontcha, and watch the race to the door. DPA was probably hoping for that sort of outcome.
National meddling is what caused the American pilots to leave ALPA in 1963 - I don't believe the lesson is lost on anyone. "Meet and confer" all you want.
National meddling is what caused the American pilots to leave ALPA in 1963 - I don't believe the lesson is lost on anyone. "Meet and confer" all you want.
Frankly local autonomy (A MEC's right to choose its own path) was honored here. If anything, it proves that National can advise but it cannot dictate, even to our own detriment.
11-13-2014 | 03:31 AM
#9528
Straight QOL, homie
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,202
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
How do you explain Moak demanding the Delta MEC embark on a campaign to eliminate the DPA? How many tens of thousands of our dues dollars were wasted at the behest of ALPA national?
"Autonomy," my ass.
11-13-2014 | 04:01 AM
#9529
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Joined: Feb 2009
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From: right for a long, long time
You're talking about the "Special Committee".....Edited for accuracy.
11-13-2014 | 04:16 AM
#9530
Straight QOL, homie
Joined: Feb 2012
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From: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
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