NO! NO! NO! We are on the same page when it comes scabs, which is a polite word for thief.

 

Yep, not long ago I caught a jumpseat on UAL to ORD. After landing, as I'm walking thru the terminal, I hear RUNNING behind me. It's the Captain. He says to me--just trying to be a good guy--that someone with my name is on the infamous "scab list". He also figured out I was too young to be that person. So he was just letting me know...for when it happens again, maybe years later, when the math may not be quite so apparent.

So I thanked the Captain, and learned something: I figure scabbing has about a 100 year shelf life minimum.

 

A few years ago...

I was in MSP trying to get to work on a NWA DC-10. A reserve crew had been called and as they arrived, the Captain noticed me in the gate area and asked if I needed a ride. I said "yes please" and he happily offered the J/S. Just before I boarded, a NWA Intern arrived and TOLD the gate agent to "put him in the jumpseat." She escorted us both to the aircraft and when we got up front, the Captain (who was dealing with MX) asked the FO to deal with us. The FO quickly glanced at the intern's badge, assumed that he was a NWA pilot and told him to sit in the "comfy" jumpseat behind the left seat (the one with the great view). He then told me that I had the "plank" for the flight to SEA. For those of you who have never been on the #2 DC-10 J/S, I equate it to sitting on a 2 X 6! I didn't complain though, it was a free ride on a full plane and I was THRILLED to get on! About 30 minutes into the flight, the NWA intern proceeded to FALL ASLEEP and stayed that way until the gear came down over the SEATAC Mall! As we deplaned, the FO pulled me aside and apologized. He felt bad that he'd given the nicer of the two seats to an intern who apparently wasn't paying attention in class when J/S etiquette was covered. Oh well. At least I made it to work on time! Thanks NWA!

TF

 

And who, exactly do you think WE are looking out for when we bargain in solidarity? OUR FAMILIES, GENIUS!

 

It’s a mystery to me. You mentioned that people should put the needs of their union first before having kids or worrying about mouths to feed, which I think is what you said in an earlier post.

 

The "List" goes back to the 1930's.

 

Are you kidding? Unions resort to self-help to improve pay and working conditions. That has a direct effect on the quality of life for labor families.

Using the old, "I had to feed my family" excuse to cross a picket line is just that...an excuse. It has nothing to do with putting food on the table and everything to do with getting in a left seat out of seniority.

To say pilots - generally well-educated, intelligent individuals - cannot find some kind of temporary job to feed the family is ludicrous. Sell the house, sell the toys, pull the kids out of private school if you have to, but don't cross that line. You'll earn the label and everything that goes with it...for the rest of your life.

 

You must have come into the middle of the movie without seeing it from the beginning. Review prior posts to see my views about crossing picket lines... then come back into the show.

 

Now that's funny. I'm thinking this is flamebait.

If by any remote chance it isn't, and this story is real, then man I got words for that NWA captain.

Mesaba "suckers" aren't taking the jobs. It was NWA pilots who allowed to grandfather 36 Avros at Mesaba. It was Northwest pilots who relaxed scope after 9/11, and Northwest pilots who allowed a regional in house carrier to form, called Compass Airlines. Supposedly, it will be staffed by furloughed NWA pilots and then off the street hires. But the way things are going, NWA might recall everyone back before the E190s really come into play. WHo knows how it will play out.

One thing is for sure, it is NOT the Mesaba guy that's f#$king over NWA mainline pilots. It's your mainline management, and your own pilot group for relaxing scope.

Put blame at the true source of it all!

 

I did? I said that? Try quoting, when you want to quote, instead of MISquoting.

My point was, and yes, you are the only one who doesn't get it, screwing your union brethren because you DECIDED to have a pack of kids and no financial security is a pretty pathetic way to conduct yourself. Then again, that is just a limp-wristed excuse anyway, like 'Pede said.

The fact that fungus like you leach your livelihood from the union's hard work right up until the moment of truth and then bail at the most selfish moment possible is just the cherry on top.

Methinks you doth protest too much. You are an ex-scab, without a doubt. Though equally certain, you somehow fail to classify yourself as such. After all, YOU had a good reason...