what facts are we arguing about now?

We are getting whipsawed by MGMT....we must stop and unite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How fitting DALALPA allowed the destruction of SCOPE which allowed whipsawing at the regionals and now they are trying to bring whipsawing to the major level. Congrats DALALPA you have earned the Frank Lorenzo Award!!

The only way we can win this fight is for DALALPA and NWAALPA to drop those titles and work as ALPA pilots.

Tell your MEC that. I have told mine. Do it weekly.
No one has a right to complain if they do not voice their concerns.

I think the Lorenzo award is a little harsh. No DAL pilot that I'm aware of has ever crossed a picket line. I have been on strike before and went the duration. DALPA tried to get an agreement, NWA's negotiators sought to protect the NWA pilots last month and didn't consider us in their proposals. If an SLI had been reached that favored NWA pilots and penalized DAL pilots do you really believe you would have been up in arms over this?

ALPA is really like the republican or democratic parties. You have the national party but the politics is played out at the local level. Senators and Representatives will always unite for the national party but will splinter when it comes to anything that will harm their own constituents.

I know of no specifics on this latest deal but the DAL MEC is the smartest MEC when it comes to understanding how business works.

I didnt say the "S" award. I was merely talking about the tactics DALALPA is trying to use. Instead of being ALPA pilots they are being DALALPA pilots and evidently are willing to screw the NWA pilots.. The only thing that would accomplish would be to diversify the groups for good and allow mgmt to whipsaw us and keep our wages down. Check out what happens at the regional level with whipsawing. DAL mgmt says NWA pilots will fly your 777s for 10bucks less an hour are you willing to do that? No, oh well we are transferring the 777s over to NWA then. Wouldnt that suck? thats what happens at the regionals and DALALPA is balancing on a thin line right now with that.

Where are you hanging today DAL4?
Are they working you like crazy?

How did the NWA Neg. not consider the DAL Pilots? Again, I am not sparking something here, I just want it spelled out, b.c. I have not understood specifically what is thought the NWA proposal was?

Also, the last statement is Not needed, these are the statements that divide us. How can YOU really compare MEC to MEC? did you work for NWA? Are you on the Neg comm? I am not calling you out, but again, if you do not directly deal with them, you do not really know. I WANT to see a unified group that trys to do what is BEST for ALL. I understand there will be some compromise on both sides. If this is going to happen, which it probably will, then we need to work together, b.c. if we do not, WE ALL will get screwed more!

What goes around come around...

Isn't that what the NWA seniority negotiators were doing, being NWAAlpa pilots instead of being ALPA pilots?

Weren't they interested only in what was best for the NWA pilots, at the expense of DAL pilots or what was best for the merged company?



You can't have it both ways.


JMHO, I could be wrong!

No, what kind of mentalitly is that? NWA alpa has been working with DALALPA(they werent agreeing but they work working together), DAL MEC is the ones that went running to mgmt of all people to try and sneek behind the NWA guys.