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06-20-2022 | 06:32 PM
#221
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Just wondering, how long does it take in seniority at Mesa to fly the 737 currently? I heard 3 years. Is this correct.
06-20-2022 | 06:33 PM
#222
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The answer is C. Mesa’s time is up, it’s over. Trust me when I say this if you don’t have apps out everywhere, and I really do mean everywhere, you are making a huge mistake. It’s past time to abandon ship it’s been taking on water for a few months now and the listing has passed the point of no return.
06-20-2022 | 06:36 PM
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06-20-2022 | 06:45 PM
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the current environment is unlike any mesa has seen.
united stated itself they are planning a regional phase out.
Add….those who wait 9 months for a sim fpt schedule. Many don’t return, that will only increase with the aawo pay as it is now which includes the bonuses.
Add…..We lose 30 to 50 pilots per month(< can someone chime in here). It takes 9 months to produce a ioe ready pilot. The ioe ready pilot on the Ejet is waiting several weeks for ioe.
add….the parked planes
Add in the folks that are leaving…… and welp
06-20-2022 | 06:45 PM
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06-20-2022 | 08:56 PM
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the current environment is unlike any mesa has seen.
united stated itself they are planning a regional phase out.
Add….those who wait 9 months for a sim fpt schedule. Many don’t return, that will only increase with the aawo pay as it is now which includes the bonuses.
Add…..We lose 30 to 50 pilots per month(< can someone chime in here). It takes 9 months to produce a ioe ready pilot. The ioe ready pilot on the Ejet is waiting several weeks for ioe.
add….the parked planes
Add in the folks that are leaving…… and welp
united stated itself they are planning a regional phase out.
Add….those who wait 9 months for a sim fpt schedule. Many don’t return, that will only increase with the aawo pay as it is now which includes the bonuses.
Add…..We lose 30 to 50 pilots per month(< can someone chime in here). It takes 9 months to produce a ioe ready pilot. The ioe ready pilot on the Ejet is waiting several weeks for ioe.
add….the parked planes
Add in the folks that are leaving…… and welp
06-21-2022 | 03:41 AM
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Sure, if anew hire’s seniority can hold it they can bid it. At AA, for example, nobody is contractually blocking a current APA member from bidding a higher paying aircraft. The question isn’t why it should be internal higher only....it’s why do they want to exclude internal hires?
Why would you want your union to restrict current, dues paying members. If this is allowed, could this possibly set a precedent for any other better paying aircraft that may come down the road (B767, B777, whatever)? This union fought long and hard to get rid of Freedom, and while this isn’t exactly the same thing (alter ego carrier) there seem to parallels (junior people, higher pay airplane). Disclaimer.....I’m not an expert on Freedom so I may be off on this comparison......
I can only assume this is something the company really wants to save on training costs. That is NOT our problem and a huge concession.
Why would you want your union to restrict current, dues paying members. If this is allowed, could this possibly set a precedent for any other better paying aircraft that may come down the road (B767, B777, whatever)? This union fought long and hard to get rid of Freedom, and while this isn’t exactly the same thing (alter ego carrier) there seem to parallels (junior people, higher pay airplane). Disclaimer.....I’m not an expert on Freedom so I may be off on this comparison......
I can only assume this is something the company really wants to save on training costs. That is NOT our problem and a huge concession.
FACT
Pilots who went to freedom Sep 2002 and thereafter did a huge harm to Mesa pilots (2003 contract ) and the industry ( every Regional manager was throwing the Mesa contract on the table during their negotiations )as a whole ……
Proudly carrying that list of pilots and I will never give them a jump seat ALPA or not
We don’t forget we don’t forgive
06-21-2022 | 06:00 AM
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The general workaround for that is to negotiate bypass pay for all pilots above the junior category pilot who receives the award. All RJ pilots get 737 FO pay? Now you're talking something a bit more palatable.
06-21-2022 | 06:09 AM
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737 should only be an option for new hires if every other pilot at the company has passed it up. That's how seniority works.
The general workaround for that is to negotiate bypass pay for all pilots above the junior category pilot who receives the award. All RJ pilots get 737 FO pay? Now you're talking something a bit more palatable.
The general workaround for that is to negotiate bypass pay for all pilots above the junior category pilot who receives the award. All RJ pilots get 737 FO pay? Now you're talking something a bit more palatable.
06-21-2022 | 03:19 PM
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MAGMEC: Guys use this calculator to show you how if you stay here it will take you 5 years to make the same amount of money you can make in 1 year by switching airlines! But we’re still voting yes!
Seriously guys. Stop emailing. You’re embarrassing yourselves.
Seriously guys. Stop emailing. You’re embarrassing yourselves.
