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08-07-2014 | 12:11 PM
#2201
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And yet, things are positive.
08-07-2014 | 12:23 PM
#2202
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Plus remember the planes from ORD are going to IAD Sept. 20th.
There's too much going on now to make any valid predictions ya'll:
1) People constantly upgrading, cleaning out the FO ranks with the exception of PHX/CLT lifers
2) LAX & DFW opening, ORD & CLT closing, 20 planes moving ORD->IAD
3) IAH EJet base consistently expanding with possibility of EJets in ORD
4) We're somehow still filling classes and upgrading like crazy, but if attrition picks up in the CA ranks, they might go so deep on the seniority list they start hitting the guys with <1000 hours 121 time.
If we start having street upgrades in IAD this Fall, new hires there will be in the strange position of losing relative seniority in base b/c the guys below them are leaving.
All I'm saying is this whole picture is too blurry to predict anything for anyone, and you should have low expectations and eyes wide open in this industry, especially going into 2015.
There's too much going on now to make any valid predictions ya'll:
1) People constantly upgrading, cleaning out the FO ranks with the exception of PHX/CLT lifers
2) LAX & DFW opening, ORD & CLT closing, 20 planes moving ORD->IAD
3) IAH EJet base consistently expanding with possibility of EJets in ORD
4) We're somehow still filling classes and upgrading like crazy, but if attrition picks up in the CA ranks, they might go so deep on the seniority list they start hitting the guys with <1000 hours 121 time.
If we start having street upgrades in IAD this Fall, new hires there will be in the strange position of losing relative seniority in base b/c the guys below them are leaving.
All I'm saying is this whole picture is too blurry to predict anything for anyone, and you should have low expectations and eyes wide open in this industry, especially going into 2015.
08-07-2014 | 12:46 PM
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Just a side note if it hadn't been discussed already. I was told during my interview that the 175 out of IAH will do majority of its trips to Canada. Long flights, good amount of hours per trip and awesome overnights! They also said the trips being built for the 175's have been desirable by the pilots and that the response has been good. Productive long haul trips equals more pay in the wallet. I don't know how long it would take to get from Houston to Canada in a 175, but I imagine you couldn't fit more than one leg per day without timing out on the second. So it sounds like 1 or 2 legs per day, great block times and less hassle than you would have with multiple cities.
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08-07-2014 | 12:58 PM
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Just like the saying, ones man's trash is another's treasure. The massive displacement will be good for some but guessing the senior people in CLT will have to endure the pain that the PHX people did the last 3 years. The full base closure of CLT is massive.
08-07-2014 | 01:08 PM
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Well, yes, the base change is positive or negative dependent upon one's perspective. But just the fact that there's hiring, there's growth, there's positive outlook and stability. Those didn't exist when I started flight training. Pilots and furloughees instructed five years waiting for the recession to turn around just so they could finally get the chance to be a regional FO, or to be an FO again. Puts things into perspective.
08-07-2014 | 01:42 PM
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Well, yes, the base change is positive or negative dependent upon one's perspective. But just the fact that there's hiring, there's growth, there's positive outlook and stability. Those didn't exist when I started flight training. Pilots and furloughees instructed five years waiting for the recession to turn around just so they could finally get the chance to be a regional FO, or to be an FO again. Puts things into perspective.
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08-07-2014 | 02:05 PM
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Anyone have a guesstimate of current attrition rates?
08-07-2014 | 02:34 PM
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From: 175 Left
I know it sounds outlandish, but I keep being told more 700s for AA out of DFW.
Seems nuts to me, who wants 700s in the day and age when passengers hate the CRJ, and other people are only getting new 900s and 175s.
This rumor is second hand from JO.
Anyone talk to senior management at the road shows this week?
Seems nuts to me, who wants 700s in the day and age when passengers hate the CRJ, and other people are only getting new 900s and 175s.
This rumor is second hand from JO.
Anyone talk to senior management at the road shows this week?
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08-07-2014 | 04:28 PM
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I know it sounds outlandish, but I keep being told more 700s for AA out of DFW.
Seems nuts to me, who wants 700s in the day and age when passengers hate the CRJ, and other people are only getting new 900s and 175s.
This rumor is second hand from JO.
Anyone talk to senior management at the road shows this week?
Seems nuts to me, who wants 700s in the day and age when passengers hate the CRJ, and other people are only getting new 900s and 175s.
This rumor is second hand from JO.
Anyone talk to senior management at the road shows this week?
08-07-2014 | 10:18 PM
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From: doggy style
How's the quality of the CRJ pairings/lines?
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