Hey guys, whats the latest with PHX. Still shrinking, staying the same? Still possible for a new hire?

 

Atp mins and a heart beat, you have a job. If you fail out of Mesa, it is because your brain is not wired to be a pilot. Seriously.
Only way Mesa is going to survive in the future is by being a pilot mill, offering fast upgrades, and lots of movement to the majors. Mesa is in no position to let new pilots go. From what I've seen, Mesa goes out of their way to help people, especially if they are good, kind individuals.

 

7 fewer lines in August than July (down to 64 I think), which is about what I expected with the LAX flying going away and the summer season winding down. December hires are the most junior to hold PHX. There seems to be quite a few lifer FOs in PHX, so movement is slower than other bases. No one seems to know the future of PHX both for AA mainline or regional carriers (Mesa and SKW). I don't see it shrinking more than it the loss of the LAX flying will yield. And I don't see AAG reducing to only one regional here, so I'm guessing SKW and Mesa will remain here in roughly the same ratio as it is now. But who knows. Either way, you'll get to experience life at DFW for a little while most likely.

 

I think these rumors of unfair training going around at places like PSA and Mesa are more likely a result of entitled millenial brats being told "no, you aren't actually good at this at all" for the first time in their lives.

The "everyone gets a trophy"/anti-bullying generation is entering the workforce nowadays--kids who had Facebook & Instagram starting in junior high/high school--and they are used to being constantly validated by their peer group, and being able to block any info or opinions that threaten their virtually-inflated egos--instantly.

From what I've seen on the line, the younger millenials--guys in their early/mid-20s right now--they're just really, really bad at accepting constructive criticism and critiques, and they're really bad at failure and take any tiny fragment of criticism or suggestion as some MASSIVE, unjust attack on who they are.

I think what we're seeing is the response of a coddled, sheltered generation to a routine selection process that from time to time fails people. They just can't comprehend the idea of a process that doesn't pass everyone who wants to pass. Part of this is the over-selling of career outcomes by colleges and flight schools, part of it is anti-bullying educational culture.

Just my two cents.

 

I think I know who this is. Lmao. We just had a guy that took 3 ioe sessions which equates to over 100 hours of ioe to get him through. Honestly I still don't know how he passed still. We had another guy this month fail out of aqp recurrent because he could not figure out what the max v1 number off the release. Really guys!!! Come on. I was told he barely knew how to fill out a toll card.

I got through sims with 0 extra training sims and 0 extra training. And I had not flown at all in 3 years. Come on Mesa spoon feeds the info.

As long as you are not running down the halls of sleep inn naked and peeing on the walls, molesting the fas, tell an instructor to f-off. or looking at porn and dating sites during indoc. Smoking weed at the hotel, get a flight attendant pregnant during training you will do just fine!

 

Maybe you should mention that it isnt ALL of of 20 year olds.... Dont let the troll trick you into throwing that portion of our company under the bus.

Plenty of other 20-25 year olds id rather fly with than senior captains here.

 

Very doubtful if there is any fact in here at all. A couple of EJET instructors have requested to go back to the line because they want to fly. They are certainly not being sent back. I don't have firsthand knowledge of the CRJ side of the house but I would doubt there is wholesale reduction in training resources just yet with several aircraft left to deliver this year.

Large blocks of sim time are booked and cancelled all the time...nothing to see there.

Any training program has failures and at different stages of training, no surprise there. On the EJET the numbers are not out of the ordinary and definitely not "suspicious".

You can't put much weight in anecdotal Chief Pilot meetings especially regarding terminations or disciplinary matters. Those stories by nature are one-sided and inaccurate at best.

So your information is summarily unhelpful to anyone as it has almost no basis in fact, contrary to your assertion.

 

If you can't pass training at Mesa it is because you either have a bad attitude, put no effort into the training, or have no business flying anything. I have been through training at Mesa and another 121 carrier, and I will say that if you fail out of this place you have no one to blame but yourself. If anything the company is probably going too far out of its way to help people make it through. If there are high failure rates it is because they are not interviewing anyone but for a brief phone screen. Every regional needs people right now, the competition is fierce, and getting people in class seems to be the focus. You get some good eggs and some bad eggs when you hire this way. But with competition tight, making someone interview leaves another company open to steal your candidate first.

 

Not true. You can do several of those things and still make it through!

 

Another failed result of the baby boom generation.