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Old 12-07-2017 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
With these FO's?
Or, with new Ejet CA’s off the CRJ? Even worse, a new Ejet CA that has just come over from being a CRJ CA. ;-)
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Old 12-07-2017 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HandyUghes
The stink is real. FOs with zero PIC get called from other regionals. At Mesa, you better be a multi-thousand hour captain with a good resume to have a chance with a legacy.
I can’t think of a single multi-thousand hour CA with a good resume who has gotten hired by a legacy. Most Mesa pilots are young that I see leaving to legacies.

I think legacies are really suspicious of any Mesa CA who has been here longer than they should have been.
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Old 12-07-2017 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sennant
If they did that it would show that most of our attrition is FO's moving laterally. Not a big selling point when trying to recruit people to come here.
I only know of one FO that has moved laterally to a regional. If you count Spirit as a regional, I guess you might be right.

It would be valuable if Mesa would publish where their pilots go, particularly their CA’s.
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Old 12-07-2017 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
I can’t think of a single multi-thousand hour CA with a good resume who has gotten hired by a legacy. Most Mesa pilots are young that I see leaving to legacies.

I think legacies are really suspicious of any Mesa CA who has been here longer than they should have been.
I can think of eleven people off the top of my head who have gone to Delta, SWA, United or AA within the past two years. More if you include JB. All captains. Yes, those who have been around a while tend to stay here, some by choice, but I'm not necessarily talking about the super seniors - a few of whom have headed to Atlas, Spirit, ATI, etc. recently.

This career is a lottery. I've stopped comparing my career movement to others'. Anyone who thinks they "achieved" a legacy job through hard work is delusional. The job simply happened, just as it didn't for many equally qualified others.
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Old 12-08-2017 | 04:06 AM
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Anybody get the new “flight Standards team” email? It basically consist of the training department, another title but same people who help create this mess in the first place. Also, just realized a prominent sim instructor is going back to the crj. Good times, smoke and mirrors!!!
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Old 12-08-2017 | 10:13 AM
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The letter from Billy C this morning is mind-blowing - and not necessarily in the subject matter.

Nothing surprises me here anymore, particularly when one considers the management staff's lack of professionalism. Somebody should ask the tough questions he asks of us. OK, I'll start here: what's an 'epilate'? :-)

I actually know, but from the desk dictionary:

verb (used with object): epilated, epilating.
1. to remove (hair) from the body by means of physical, chemical, or radiological agents; depilate.

So I guess we'll be able to figure out who the Flight Standards guys are, because they will be carrying Nair in their flight bags. :-) Maybe using it on the flight deck, too. Yikes.

Kind of cool he misspelled the name of his boss, too.

Yes, I'm being picky but fair is fair. Communication is not a strong suit of our management. They expect professionalism from us, so lead by example. Clear and concise writing is essential in the business world.

Back to my coffee.

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Old 12-08-2017 | 11:22 AM
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What he said....lmao
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Old 12-08-2017 | 06:19 PM
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Hey, I'm with you on this. I 100% agree that people who are supposedly professionals should be able to communicate in written correspondence with good grammar and spelling! In addition, they should conduct themselves in a professional manner and speak in a professional manner as well.
Originally Posted by MrWizard
The letter from Billy C this morning is mind-blowing - and not necessarily in the subject matter.

Nothing surprises me here anymore, particularly when one considers the management staff's lack of professionalism. Somebody should ask the tough questions he asks of us. OK, I'll start here: what's an 'epilate'? :-)

I actually know, but from the desk dictionary:

verb (used with object): epilated, epilating.
1. to remove (hair) from the body by means of physical, chemical, or radiological agents; depilate.

So I guess we'll be able to figure out who the Flight Standards guys are, because they will be carrying Nair in their flight bags. :-) Maybe using it on the flight deck, too. Yikes.

Kind of cool he misspelled the name of his boss, too.

Yes, I'm being picky but fair is fair. Communication is not a strong suit of our management. They expect professionalism from us, so lead by example. Clear and concise writing is essential in the business world.

Back to my coffee.
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Old 12-09-2017 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HandyUghes
I can think of eleven people off the top of my head who have gone to Delta, SWA, United or AA within the past two years. More if you include JB. All captains. Yes, those who have been around a while tend to stay here, some by choice, but I'm not necessarily talking about the super seniors - a few of whom have headed to Atlas, Spirit, ATI, etc. recently.

This career is a lottery. I've stopped comparing my career movement to others'. Anyone who thinks they "achieved" a legacy job through hard work is delusional. The job simply happened, just as it didn't for many equally qualified others.
I agree with you man... I've met equally qualified pilots that get called immediately after posting their CV making it look like the easiest task in the world nowadays and people who've been waiting for years and not a single call... I also think is a lottery, but just in case a clean record and extracurricular activities in your resume wouldn't hurt.
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Old 12-09-2017 | 03:54 PM
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Everything is “crap luck.” All of it.
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