Well, if the CPP is ever implemented here like it is at Xjet, then yes, guys will get to United much more. United currently takes 60% of their new hires through the CPP. With increased United hiring, that 60% has to expand.

I just don’t think the CPP will ever be implemented. United isn’t going to help the American system. No other regional in the CPP has proposed allowing American-based pilots access to the program - only Mesa.

I guess it is possible a compromise will be worked out, but I see the CPP going the way of ATL. It will be dangled out there for 6 months, and then die.

 

Expressjet was flying for AA and Delta when they received the CPP

 

But the only guys eligible are active UAX pilots and always have been.

 

That's because the CRJ's never flew for UA. You could seperate the requirements at ExpressJet by aircraft type.

You can't do that here. THe big differnce between CPP and ATL is CPP has United's name on it and required negotiations and approval from United. ATL is a Mesa decision all the way.

 

United and Xjet didn’t separate it by aircraft type. They separated it publicly by being based as an UAX pilot. The exact same way it was initially rolled out here and the exact same way it is rolled out at all the other regionals.

I don’t see United as the bottleneck to the CPP being rolled out to UAX based pilots at Mesa either, I see Mesa as the bottleneck.

 

This is not a correct statement.

 

Correct it, then....

 

XJT is 25%.
Air Wisconsin hasn’t been publicly released, nor has CommutAir.
Lufthansa’s flight school in Phoenix doesn’t have a specific number, but it’s single digit numbers of pilots so far. Mesa’s amount is TBD or being kept a secret.
Where did you get 60% from?? You honestly think United is going to limit the rest of their options down to 40% for military and OTS?

The only people to make it to UAL via the CPP so far have been XJT and Commutair, as well as a small handful of Lufthansa CFIs. Air Wisconsin hasn’t sent a single pilot yet. A far cry from 60%.

 

United HR. They can lie. I could have misunderstood them. I thought you had facts.

And, I don’t think United limits their options at all. They take pilots where they can get them.

What I do know is that very, very few pilots come out of non-CPP partners. For example, SkyWest publishes where their pilots go and only 1% go to United.

 

Fact 1: XJT CPP is 25%

Fact 2: Commutair CPP is 10% or less. Their whole pilot group is only about 250 people.

Fact 3: Air Wisconsin hasn’t sent a single pilot yet. So for now, that’s 0%. Subject to change.

Fact 4: The CFIs from Phoenix are less than 10. That’s not a percentage. I mean TEN.

Soooooo......you can add all that up and try to imagine a world where that comes out to 60%........and you can also believe every word a recruiter tells you......

But you shouldn’t go around repeating it like you know what you’re talking about, as you clearly like to do with a massive sense of self-importance already.

For the sake of discussion, let’s say they are GOING to do that. That’s a HUGE leap from where we are. You being told 60% are coming from CPP carriers is akin to your company telling people there’s going to be an ATL base. You don’t seem to approve of that sort of thing, so I hope anybody listening to you does some extra bit of searching. The information I have provided is readily available all over these forums.

Fact 5: You like to hear yourself talk.