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Old 09-20-2019, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by av8trinabarrel View Post
121 wasn't for you as in you traded in a regional for frac I assume. Not a very good comparison, but if you're happy thats all that matters.
What comparison did I make? I left 121, yes a regional, but so what? I didn't like it so I left to try something else.

I retired from the military (gun pilot) and went to fly 121. Does this mean, then, that military flying is substandard to 121? No, it means I was ready to do something different.

I left 121 to try something different. That is all I indicated yet you immediately dismiss my experience because of your perceived superiority; i.e. "not a very good comparison." Get over yourself.
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Old 09-20-2019, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Pursue45 View Post
What comparison did I make? I left 121, yes a regional, but so what? I didn't like it so I left to try something else.

I retired from the military (gun pilot) and went to fly 121. Does this mean, then, that military flying is substandard to 121? No, it means I was ready to do something different.

I left 121 to try something different. That is all I indicated yet you immediately dismiss my experience because of your perceived superiority; i.e. "not a very good comparison." Get over yourself.
Relax gun pilot, Nobody is calling you substandard in any way. Your decision is all yours and only yours. Your fooling yourself if you think 121 is the same across the board, but like I said if your happy that’s all that matters. Carry on
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Old 09-20-2019, 10:36 AM
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All 121s are not the same. A regional has as much in common with a major as FlexJet has with NJA. They are two totally different animals. As long as everyone is happy where they are and are being truthful to others who are looking to make a jump, it’s all good.
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:15 PM
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Guys,

Can we get back to the essence of the original thread versus this "he said she said" fractional-airline comparison?
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Old 09-21-2019, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gundriver64 View Post
Guys,

Can we get back to the essence of the original thread versus this "he said she said" fractional-airline comparison?
Good luck with that , You can start a thread on “ the sky is blue ...” and 3 responses later it will devolve to , “ my life is so much better than yours, “ followed by “no mine is “ LOL 😂
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Old 09-21-2019, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pursue45 View Post
What comparison did I make? I left 121, yes a regional, but so what? I didn't like it so I left to try something else.

I retired from the military (gun pilot) and went to fly 121. Does this mean, then, that military flying is substandard to 121? No, it means I was ready to do something different.

I left 121 to try something different. That is all I indicated yet you immediately dismiss my experience because of your perceived superiority; i.e. "not a very good comparison." Get over yourself.
I flew 20 years in the Air Force and went to 121 and was bored out of my mind, robot flying to same places every day with little operational input. I find the flying at NJA much more like the military, you have to be open to constant changes and never knowing where your going (like the Air Force) but its fun and you meet awesome people, 99% of the owners are down to earth and nice. I don't spend a dime usually while on the road, we get two catered meals a day and all hotels give free breakfast so I keep all the per diem, but best part is I get a ticket home after my 7 day tour for my 7 days off and I know my schedule all year. Also keep all points for airlines so already heading to Hawaii for free after one year! Fun Job!
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Old 09-21-2019, 04:06 AM
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The 121 guys $hitting on NJA have never lived through an economic downturn or have been furloughed. These same guys will be back when it happens praising NJA and begging for information. Whether it's Frac or 121, they are both just jobs and provide for our families. The airline guys make a little more and sorta work less (your commuting and crash pads suck), but that can be subjective what with keeping a medical, staying married, and living below your means.

The 121 guys $hitting on any other type of flying as being "meh" cannot believe that there are other alternatives to make money and fly in aviation!
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Originally Posted by Learflyer View Post
The 121 guys $hitting on NJA have never lived through an economic downturn or have been furloughed. These same guys will be back when it happens praising NJA and begging for information. Whether it's Frac or 121, they are both just jobs and provide for our families. The airline guys make a little more and sorta work less (your commuting and crash pads suck), but that can be subjective what with keeping a medical, staying married, and living below your means.

The 121 guys $hitting on any other type of flying as being "meh" cannot believe that there are other alternatives to make money and fly in aviation!

Wrong, wrong and wrong. Such ignorance in that post. I personally have gone through an airline shutdown, a NJA furlough and a shrinkage at NJA from over 600 airplane to 400. Other guys posting on this thread have gone through worse, in fact one former NJA on here has gone though 3 airline furloughs and/or shutdowns.

Most of the guys are not bashing NJA, in fact almost all have said it’s a good job but ALL have said stop the lying about the benefits of NJA. You got one who thinks going TEB-PBI is somehow different than EWR-MIA and it’s less boring while obviously eating out of a plastic box is respectable, but he only works 5 months a year somehow. While one thinks NJA pilots make so much money that they make Scrooge McDuck look poor. What it comes down to what we all say, like where you work but don’t misrepresent the facts to fit some narrative. They all have benefits and they all have things not so great. Enjoy where you are for what it is.
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Old 09-21-2019, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Guard View Post
I flew 20 years in the Air Force and went to 121 and was bored out of my mind, robot flying to same places every day with little operational input. I find the flying at NJA much more like the military, you have to be open to constant changes and never knowing where your going (like the Air Force) but its fun and you meet awesome people, 99% of the owners are down to earth and nice. I don't spend a dime usually while on the road, we get two catered meals a day and all hotels give free breakfast so I keep all the per diem, but best part is I get a ticket home after my 7 day tour for my 7 days off and I know my schedule all year. Also keep all points for airlines so already heading to Hawaii for free after one year! Fun Job!
You need to go spend some per diem at least once a tour. Have a nice meal or whatever. It feels good to get away from crew food and relax outside the hotel. You will feel better for it and most likely your captain will pay for a refreshment or two. I was a per diem horder for a long time. Then I realized a tour is just nicer if you get at least one good meal.

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Old 09-21-2019, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Guard View Post
I flew 20 years in the Air Force and went to 121 and was bored out of my mind, robot flying to same places every day with little operational input. I find the flying at NJA much more like the military, you have to be open to constant changes and never knowing where your going (like the Air Force) but its fun and you meet awesome people, 99% of the owners are down to earth and nice. I don't spend a dime usually while on the road, we get two catered meals a day and all hotels give free breakfast so I keep all the per diem, but best part is I get a ticket home after my 7 day tour for my 7 days off and I know my schedule all year. Also keep all points for airlines so already heading to Hawaii for free after one year! Fun Job!

you crack me up. working twice as hard for half the pay is fun??? well, at least you get to save that per-diem. enjoy.
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