NetJets Hiring Process
09-25-2019 | 12:43 PM
#571
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Well now... that brings up a whole other argument.
We had guys “on furlough” that hadn’t accepted recall for years past the offer to come back. Some had military commitments, others employment contracts, etc.
Surely, you can’t mean those who were technically furloughed but wouldn’t accept recall are the same as furloughed for real and on the street?
So far as extra time even being available to fly, furloughed pilots or not... NO extra time was available in my legacy fleet the entire time I was on it. That includes the entire furlough period. NO extra time was available until 2015 in my new fleet.
I’m pretty sure that easily includes the entire legitimate furlough period.
I’m calling “Fake News” (has to be a bad source) on you. And that’s fine.
But review those Duty Summaries to be sure.
We had guys “on furlough” that hadn’t accepted recall for years past the offer to come back. Some had military commitments, others employment contracts, etc.
Surely, you can’t mean those who were technically furloughed but wouldn’t accept recall are the same as furloughed for real and on the street?
So far as extra time even being available to fly, furloughed pilots or not... NO extra time was available in my legacy fleet the entire time I was on it. That includes the entire furlough period. NO extra time was available until 2015 in my new fleet.
I’m pretty sure that easily includes the entire legitimate furlough period.
I’m calling “Fake News” (has to be a bad source) on you. And that’s fine.
But review those Duty Summaries to be sure.
If you didn’t extend voluntarily, don’t worry about it and if you did don’t worry about it either, the damage has already been done.
09-25-2019 | 03:57 PM
#572
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From: C47 PIC/747-400 SIC
I was a furloughee, the unspoken ( and shouldn’t need to be spoken ) rule ,while folks are out on the street should always be zero overtime , zero anything that keeps peeps on the streets one day longer than necessary till every eligible body returns to the seniority list . I was blessed to soft land into a 747 cockpit during our forced vacation , but some of our brothers and sisters really suffered during the 4.5 year involuntary vaca, we always need to look out for each other . Cheers .
09-25-2019 | 05:14 PM
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09-25-2019 | 07:17 PM
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But how many jobs could have been saved by pilots vacating the 18 Day schedule? I know the Company limited pilots vacating the 18 Day (presumably so everyone couldn't leave at once), but there were plenty who were willing to work those extra days during the furlough. Those kind of pilots put the "I" in unIon.
09-26-2019 | 10:39 AM
#576
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Back to the thread topic of NJA hiring process, there's a change coming if you have someone at NJA to recommend you. A new "Employee Gateway" Portal will show job openings including pilots and allow you to track the status of someone you recommended. The new portal should be implemented by Dec 15th.
09-26-2019 | 12:00 PM
#577
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So I take it by your comment here you are worried your name is on the list? Quite defensive in all regards. I have NO idea who you are nor do I really care. I can say without a doubt on my spreadsheet here there are several extended days being used. It is for a date in which they still had people on the street. I can tell you the fleets were G200 and XL on one report and Phenom, XL and G200 on second one. I will not post them as it gets into a legal area I don’t want to get involved in and if I blacked out the names it would be even harder to read anyway...
If you didn’t extend voluntarily, don’t worry about it and if you did don’t worry about it either, the damage has already been done.
If you didn’t extend voluntarily, don’t worry about it and if you did don’t worry about it either, the damage has already been done.
Don’t go cross-eyed reading dozens of pages of code.
Thanks for protecting us from abuse that didn’t occur because there was no extra time to be had. But you do your thing!
Again... you must define “people on the street”. If it was after they offered recall to the entire list and some remained out voluntarily or due to other commitments... well, that’s voluntary. That doesn’t count to make the point you’re trying to make (for whatever reason you are).
Again, knock yourself out. I won’t show on a scab list. I also won’t show up on Duty Summaries in the way you infer.
09-26-2019 | 12:08 PM
#578
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I was a furloughee, the unspoken ( and shouldn’t need to be spoken ) rule ,while folks are out on the street should always be zero overtime , zero anything that keeps peeps on the streets one day longer than necessary till every eligible body returns to the seniority list . I was blessed to soft land into a 747 cockpit during our forced vacation , but some of our brothers and sisters really suffered during the 4.5 year involuntary vaca, we always need to look out for each other . Cheers .
Scheduled overtime on day one and overtime after 12 hours should not be something looked down upon.
The pilot has zero power over that legitimately.
09-26-2019 | 12:13 PM
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1) It wasn’t legal for the Union to state that.
2) Wanting pilots not to fly the 18 during a furlough is understandable, but at the end of the day it’s just an opinion with zero legal weight.
I want flamingos to hang out in my back yard.... but I don’t see it happening.
09-26-2019 | 12:25 PM
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If the Union would have said “don’t fly the 18”, your point might be valid.
1) It wasn’t legal for the Union to state that.
2) Wanting pilots not to fly the 18 during a furlough is understandable, but at the end of the day it’s just an opinion with zero legal weight.
I want flamingos to hang out in my back yard.... but I don’t see it happening.
1) It wasn’t legal for the Union to state that.
2) Wanting pilots not to fly the 18 during a furlough is understandable, but at the end of the day it’s just an opinion with zero legal weight.
I want flamingos to hang out in my back yard.... but I don’t see it happening.
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