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Old 04-06-2023 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
If you think paint chips in the RVSM area aren't on a preflight, as well as other condition items, you quite literally aren't paying attention.

That would be like saying the condition of the tires isn't on the preflight. I'm sure you'll ignore whatever management tells you to ignore to keep the metal moving. Your VED days are a testament to that...
Nobody said in the RVSM area. And I can guarantee you the amount of paint chips that were written up in the RVSM area in all the fleets can be counted on one hand.

See this is what you do….. Paint chips, well paint chips in RVSM….. That just isn’t the whole story… keep moving the goal posts.
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Old 04-06-2023 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
You have more posts about me, than you do NJA, in the NJA thread...
So are you angry about how you left?

I mean we all know it wasn’t your choice…… well technically it was but in the end it was only a matter of time.

Yet you keep coming on here posting as if you know. Move on. We moved on without you.
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Old 04-06-2023 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedepilut
Nobody said in the RVSM area. And I can guarantee you the amount of paint chips that were written up in the RVSM area in all the fleets can be counted on one hand.

See this is what you do….. Paint chips, well paint chips in RVSM….. That just isn’t the whole story… keep moving the goal posts.
I don't move the goal posts because I play by the rules and don't constantly look for grey areas like NJA pilots and management do. If it's wrong, write it up. Using discrission and common sense can always play a roll in write ups but you can't ignore issues then call yourself a professional. They simply don't go together. Paint chips and scratches are paint chips and scratches. So whats the protocol for NJA pilots now? Don't ever write them up and fly it like that? Write it up on the last leg before an airline so you dump a AOG airplane on a new crew? Management tells you not to write them up and you salute and say yes sir, please give me another extended day? Where is the line drawn?

Talk about moving goal posts, this constant cat-and-mouse BS you guys play, yet scream from the rooftops on how you are professionals, amazes me. You aren't treated like professionals and you could care less. Management calls pilots in for calling in sick, putting pilots on NQC for finding legit mx write ups, and putting pilots on list for write ups and fatigue calls and yet for some reason, a significant measure of the pilot group agrees with management. Lazy pilots who fatigue, pilots who want to get out of pulling their weight by doing small write ups, or calling in sick. Why then do you hold signs up about low pay and being treated unprofessionally at pickets?
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Old 04-06-2023 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedepilut
So are you angry about how you left?

I mean we all know it wasn’t your choice…… well technically it was but in the end it was only a matter of time.

Yet you keep coming on here posting as if you know. Move on. We moved on without you.

Haha what? I gave a month's notice and left on good terms. You know you are running out of defenses when you simply start making stuff up...
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Old 04-06-2023 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
I don't move the goal posts because I play by the rules and don't constantly look for grey areas like NJA pilots and management do. If it's wrong, write it up. Using discrission and common sense can always play a roll in write ups but you can't ignore issues then call yourself a professional. They simply don't go together. Paint chips and scratches are paint chips and scratches. So whats the protocol for NJA pilots now? Don't ever write them up and fly it like that? Write it up on the last leg before an airline so you dump a AOG airplane on a new crew? Management tells you not to write them up and you salute and say yes sir, please give me another extended day? Where is the line drawn?

Talk about moving goal posts, this constant cat-and-mouse BS you guys play, yet scream from the rooftops on how you are professionals, amazes me. You aren't treated like professionals and you could care less. Management calls pilots in for calling in sick, putting pilots on NQC for finding legit mx write ups, and putting pilots on list for write ups and fatigue calls and yet for some reason, a significant measure of the pilot group agrees with management. Lazy pilots who fatigue, pilots who want to get out of pulling their weight by doing small write ups, or calling in sick. Why then do you hold signs up about low pay and being treated unprofessionally at pickets?
And yet here you are banging the drums because you’re doing gods work. Except you aren’t here. You’re an outsider looking in.
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Old 04-06-2023 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
Haha what? I gave a month's notice and left on good terms. You know you are running out of defenses when you simply start making stuff up...
Sure….. Hey everyone remembers things differently. It’s a coping mechanism.

You found an airline job after you left. But you still can’t let it go.

Are you sad you left?
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Old 04-06-2023 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Swedepilut
Actually it’s pretty apparent you haven’t been here for a long time. Things have changed. The company has a gotten a lot smarter as to what pilots are looking for. Is a paint chip and bonding strap anywhere in the preflight checklist? No. Is pulling a cowl part of the preflight? No.

The company has worked with the FAA to make it very clear what the pilots are responsible for.

Again this company has changed a lot since you’ve been here. They are a lot more focused and have their ducks in a row now for everything.

Your insight into NJA is fading away quickly.
If you're saying all you do on your preflight are the items on your manual, you should get a 709 ride and get all your certificates pulled.

"Sir, there was a dead body hanging from the vertical stabilizer but it wasn't in the preflight so I didn't care".

Read the definition of "check" on your manual. On pretty much every Part 25 airplane, paint chips have to be checked by a mechanic to make sure they are of size and shape that is acceptable.
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Old 04-07-2023 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
If you're saying all you do on your preflight are the items on your manual, you should get a 709 ride and get all your certificates pulled.

"Sir, there was a dead body hanging from the vertical stabilizer but it wasn't in the preflight so I didn't care".

Read the definition of "check" on your manual. On pretty much every Part 25 airplane, paint chips have to be checked by a mechanic to make sure they are of size and shape that is acceptable.
Tell me where bonding straps and paint chips are part of the checklist. What about weeping rivets?

Nobody said a dead body but opening a cowling to try and find a grounding item isn’t there either.
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Old 04-07-2023 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedepilut
Tell me where bonding straps and paint chips are part of the checklist. What about weeping rivets?

Nobody said a dead body but opening a cowling to try and find a grounding item isn’t there either.
No, let him continue. I want to know more about needing a 709 ride because I’m neither an A&P nor a special guest star on SVU.
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Old 04-07-2023 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FracCracka
No, let him continue. I want to know more about needing a 709 ride because I’m neither an A&P nor a special guest star on SVU.
Should we just schedule them in CMH ourselves or let management call us in like everyone thinks they do.
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