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03-02-2018 | 05:46 AM
#3191
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Amen! Funny we here at Spirit now have new hire classes full of NJA guys now. It's running 2.5 years to the left seat. With our new contract you're at ~$200/hr plus the DC and LTD. I only work 4 on and 5/6 off. 7 and 7 sucks! Plus I don't have to load bags and kiss ass of some schmuck that won't belly up and purchase his own jet! Best part of working at NJA was watching the quarter share owner take all the catering/stock off the Falcon in a garbage bag. Classy! The junior NJA guys are smart to bail out and find a better job with vertical movement. 
03-03-2018 | 06:33 PM
#3192
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That realization was what solidified my decision to leave 100%, no questions asked. What amount of money is worth that QOL? I couldn't come up with an answer that wasn't completely comical. Funny thing is, you can have your cake and eat it to at SWA (although you will fly 4-5 legs a day 
) as I think your QOL will improve immensely and the pay won't even been the same universe.
The scary part is after all that time devoted to NJA, with only 200 below you, if they furlough, you would probably still be on the chopping block. You will have 500 below you by the end of the year at SWA more than likely.
) as I think your QOL will improve immensely and the pay won't even been the same universe. The scary part is after all that time devoted to NJA, with only 200 below you, if they furlough, you would probably still be on the chopping block. You will have 500 below you by the end of the year at SWA more than likely.
That was the southwest of old (five leg days). My three day trip that I am currently on day one, early show 2.5 hour deadhead. I napped the whole way. One 2.5 hour leg and go to the hotel for 21 hours. Day 2, two legs, 5.5 total block. 14 hour hotel. Day 3, two legs, 5 hour block home in base by 1430. Total trips paid of 20. Rest of the month very similar. Total days worked 13 days. Plan on picking up a three day. 16 days worked, pays 125ish for the month. Four year FO pay 123 x 125= $15,375 x .25 retirement = $3,843 towards retirement. You can add sick time and perdiem if you like. Not a bad month and easy to do. Welcome to SWA..
03-03-2018 | 07:38 PM
#3193
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That was the southwest of old (five leg days). My three day trip that I am currently on day one, early show 2.5 hour deadhead. I napped the whole way. One 2.5 hour leg and go to the hotel for 21 hours. Day 2, two legs, 5.5 total block. 14 hour hotel. Day 3, two legs, 5 hour block home in base by 1430. Total trips paid of 20. Rest of the month very similar. Total days worked 13 days. Plan on picking up a three day. 16 days worked, pays 125ish for the month. Four year FO pay 123 x 125= $15,375 x .25 retirement = $3,843 towards retirement. You can add sick time and perdiem if you like. Not a bad month and easy to do. Welcome to SWA..
03-06-2018 | 08:58 PM
#3196
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Amen! Funny we here at Spirit now have new hire classes full of NJA guys now. It's running 2.5 years to the left seat. With our new contract you're at ~$200/hr plus the DC and LTD. I only work 4 on and 5/6 off. 7 and 7 sucks! Plus I don't have to load bags and kiss ass of some schmuck that won't belly up and purchase his own jet! Best part of working at NJA was watching the quarter share owner take all the catering/stock off the Falcon in a garbage bag. Classy! The junior NJA guys are smart to bail out and find a better job with vertical movement.
03-07-2018 | 09:22 AM
#3197
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I am very happy I made the decision to leave NJA for Spirit. I have personally recommended 5 NJA pilots to join us (3 have class dates). Can't believe I wasted 10 years at NJA. I actually love flying again and enjoy going to work. No more 18 day schedules and being worked like a mule.
03-08-2018 | 08:02 AM
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One of the biggest improvements to my QOL has been the end of flipping my circadian clock around. I like flying evenings, so even as a SWA new hire, I've been able to stay on the PM schedule every month. It's hard to overstate how much better I feel at the end of a trip, and how much more alert I am when flying the plane. Being able to plan your rest is huge. I kept hoping NJA would get smarter with their scheduling, but if anything, it got worse as they got more "efficient." 
03-08-2018 | 08:13 AM
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One of the biggest improvements to my QOL has been the end of flipping my circadian clock around. I like flying evenings, so even as a SWA new hire, I've been able to stay on the PM schedule every month. It's hard to overstate how much better I feel at the end of a trip, and how much more alert I am when flying the plane. Being able to plan your rest is huge. I kept hoping NJA would get smarter with their scheduling, but if anything, it got worse as they got more "efficient."
03-08-2018 | 09:57 AM
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I'm a former best, of the best, of the best, sir! I was practically laughed at and mocked by my peers when I told them I was leaving NJA for Spirit. And it was a gamble at the time but anyone could see the stagnation cesspol that NJA had become. I'm at three years on property, in the left seat, and if I don't work a single hour above guarantee this year I'll gross $196,000 and I'm at near the bottom in Airbus compensation. Had I stayed at NJA I'd be a 10 year FO making $92,400 for a close to equivalent number of days/month. Why anyone without a felony conviction is working at NJA/Flex is beyond my comprehension.
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