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07-17-2017 | 08:29 AM
#3831
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Hopefully if this program goes well and UPS is happy with the quality of pilots they are getting back we might be able to work out some kind of program.
I don't think it will ever involve no interview. Since UPS and AMF are totally separate companies, I doubt they would take one of our pilots with no investigation of their own as to the pilot's ability, knowledge and demeanor.
The reason they do it with this intern program is that they have already interviewed and selected these folks before they come to AMF.
07-17-2017 | 10:37 AM
#3832
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Stay away from this place.... the training is very intense and not in a good way but a very bad way. If and when you complete your training you come out drained and worn out. All the stress isn't worth it because when you come out, if you pass it your only flying old crappy twins that look like they have seen better days. if you have low times good luck but if you have high times go somewhere else.
07-17-2017 | 11:20 AM
#3833
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Stay away from this place.... the training is very intense and not in a good way but a very bad way. If and when you complete your training you come out drained and worn out. All the stress isn't worth it because when you come out, if you pass it your only flying old crappy twins that look like they have seen better days. if you have low times good luck but if you have high times go somewhere else.
You probably just described every single pilot freight operator.. Did you wash out of training? Single pilot cargo is not for everyone.
07-19-2017 | 08:27 PM
#3834
Standing in the breadline
Joined: Jun 2017
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Anyone know if you join as a low time FO at 500 hours if you can later bracket into the accelerated Captain program on hitting 800 hours? What exactly is the difference in training and what the FO would do?
07-19-2017 | 09:20 PM
#3835
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I am not sure there was ever a training that wasn't 'intense'. If you complete training is up to the candidate, nothing more. Old crappy twins.. Freight... Old crappy twins, Freight..
You probably just described every single pilot freight operator.. Did you wash out of training? Single pilot cargo is not for everyone.
You probably just described every single pilot freight operator.. Did you wash out of training? Single pilot cargo is not for everyone.
07-20-2017 | 04:52 AM
#3836
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Currently flying single pilot freight for a company with nowhere near the finances that Ameriflight has with planes 20 years older that look nicer than anything they have. Our training was also less stressful but just as effective. My instructor was ex Ameriflight with 2000 hours there in the 1900 and he couldn't even describe how crappy the training department is. Why does everyone there have to be such a d!ck is my question. Big egos and over complicated instruction have no place in a training environment this isn't TWA in its prime. Your flying a plane back and forth to basically the same place everyday it's not that complex so don't make it so.
07-20-2017 | 06:49 AM
#3837
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Currently flying single pilot freight for a company with nowhere near the finances that Ameriflight has with planes 20 years older that look nicer than anything they have. Our training was also less stressful but just as effective. My instructor was ex Ameriflight with 2000 hours there in the 1900 and he couldn't even describe how crappy the training department is. Why does everyone there have to be such a d!ck is my question. Big egos and over complicated instruction have no place in a training environment this isn't TWA in its prime. Your flying a plane back and forth to basically the same place everyday it's not that complex so don't make it so.
I realize that right now we only have about 130 line pilots but we have had, and hope to have again in the future, over 200 line pilots. I would argue that the reason our training is so intense is that, with that many pilots, we have to have strict consistency across the fleet. And sometimes the only time someone flies with them is during their six month check. So we need to ensure they are flying the plane the way we want it flown instead of some way they decide themselves is better.
PrettyFlyGuy, if your instructor had 2000 hours IN the 1900 while he was here, I'm guessing he went through our training back around 2010 or so. I believe he would find a different culture if he were to go through today.
07-20-2017 | 08:44 AM
#3838
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07-20-2017 | 08:51 AM
#3839
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Granted I went through in 2011, but AMF graining was unnecessarily tough and intense. It sucks that it hasn’t changed, if was the worst trsining program I have experienced in my career before or since.
Culturally, AMF will never change. Gary Richards is still an influence on the day to day operations there, which is why anyone who comes in and tries to make a real change, gets canned or reassigned. It’s a bottom feeder outfit that hates pilots. Always has been, always will be.
Culturally, AMF will never change. Gary Richards is still an influence on the day to day operations there, which is why anyone who comes in and tries to make a real change, gets canned or reassigned. It’s a bottom feeder outfit that hates pilots. Always has been, always will be.
07-20-2017 | 08:59 AM
#3840
Ameriflight
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If you join as an EMB120 FO around 500 hours, you are still eligible for the Accelerated Captain Program when you get to the 800 hours.
The difference in the training: normal FOs are trained on the EMB120 and fly right seat in the EMB120 when they get out, ACP FOs are trained on the BE99 and fly right seat in the BE99 when they get out.
Hope that helps!
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