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Old 01-10-2010, 04:50 PM
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Im bringing this back up rather than making a new thread, but what Part 135 companies fly VFR? Wouldn't most fly under an IFR flight plan even in VFR conditions? So what good are the VFR 135 mins?

Someone showed me a website for a 135 in Alaska. Servant Air...They have a Lance and 207s I believe on a VFR. and a twin Islander on an IFR. I would be interested in hearing of any VFR 135s not in AK.
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Several tour companies in Arizona and Las Vegas area are VFR 135.
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I am a CFI with 1400 total, and 240 XC, really kicking myself for not making the 50 nm, trips with students, so now almost everything I do if the weather allows it I try to get a landing 50 miles away.

As for minimum part 135 ops, get 1200tt, you should meet the xc time for 135 if not you're a moron.

As for the ATP, if you got on a 135 ride and you think you are an ATP you are not, you are just dumb. An atp is need over 12,500 or for a turbojet. Think of a BE-200 12,500 max gross. You can be 135 PIC in a 200 without an atp, as for EA-500 you need an atp because it is a turbojet even though it is less than 12,500.

I am actually really surprised that some of these comments were brought up, I am guessing some of you guys are fairly new at this, as these are not very complicated issues.

As for a good CFI "caring soley about his/her student" it is a delicate balance, of what you need and what you can help them with along the way.
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As for the ATP, if you got on a 135 ride and you think you are an ATP you are not, you are just dumb. An atp is need over 12,500 or for a turbojet. Think of a BE-200 12,500 max gross. You can be 135 PIC in a 200 without an atp, as for EA-500 you need an atp because it is a turbojet even though it is less than 12,500.
What?

I'm required to have an ATP to be PIC at my company flying Cessna 402s (7210# MGTOW, piston). It's not a company requirement, it's a legal requirement under Part 135.

If you can tell me why that is, you win 1000 internets.
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The requirement for an ATP certificate has to do with the regulations under which the aircraft is operated as well as the aircraft itself. As a matter of fact, you don't necessarily need an ATP to operate a jet. Part 135.243 says "No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person serve, as pilot in command in PASSENGER-CARRYING OPERATIONS- (1) of a turbojet airplane, ... In other words, you could fly that EA500 as a commercial pilot with the appropriate type rating hauling cargo. Later in the same paragraph you would have to have an ATP to fly a Baron in Part 119 Commuter operations.

There are other regulations that allow other things. Be careful about inferring that your fellow pilots are idiots because you think the regs are really so simple. By the way, Joe, your english is horrible. Either that or you were drunk when you posted. Go read your post.
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Originally Posted by Joepa84 View Post
I am a CFI with 1400 total, and 240 XC, really kicking myself for not making the 50 nm, trips with students, so now almost everything I do if the weather allows it I try to get a landing 50 miles away.

As for minimum part 135 ops, get 1200tt, you should meet the xc time for 135 if not you're a moron.
Thanks...I guess I'm a moron. I knew about the 135s before I started teaching and positioned myself as best I could. The nearest airport from me with a hard surface runway was a 15-20min flight depending on the plane. Not everyone has the ease to hop to another airport. I have about 300 point to point and 150 50nm XC...sorry. You can get the XC for the ATP after you have the 135 job hauling cargo or something similar. My students will help me out, but I won't try and take advantage of them. Sometimes scheduling or location doesn't allow for the time to get built up.

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I got quite a bit of cross country time with instrument students doing navigational tracking and instrument approaches, especially in the faster airplanes. One way that I have been able to do that is by discussing their future aviation plans with them. If they are planning to become a professional pilot, they will need 500 hours of cross country time also. They can begin to build this time with you. Also, you need 500 cross country for both the ATP and for Part 135 IFR.
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I dont talk "good." Also, when you read my posts picture Mike Gundy yelling them at a reporter. When he gets all fired up he doesn't talk "good" either. But, he is still a great man. (Yes I know it would be talk well.)
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Joe, I never inferred anything about your character. You're probably a great guy, just like most pilots I know. I said your english skills are horrible, or that you were drunk when you posted, and I said that because I am not entirely sure what you meant by your post. I had to guess because you weren't very clear. I also said you should be careful before insinuating that someone else is an idiot because they can't interpret the regs, especially when you didn't get them exactly correct. The regs are complex, which is one of the best reasons for forums like these. It gives us an opportunity to help each other strive for excellence in our profession. Help a brother/sister out when he/she has a question. Don't belittle them.
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No, a good CFI thinks of his or her student first.
Only the really good ones do...for most it's about logging time!!
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