What are "Part 135 Minimums"?
02-05-2013, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AviatorG
I have a quick question...... So all of the IFR training I did where I flew to other airports to shoot approaches.... Would that count towards P135 XC requirements even though I did not land? Just performing Missed and then returning back to original point of Origin? Wouldn't this be just like the Bomber Issue? I am guessing not... It Does require a Landing Correct for Part 135...
Since I am a fairly new , and not quite sure the direction I am going......I am trying to structure my log book to satisfy both the 135 and ATP Requirements so that it is done no matter which route I end up...
Since I am a fairly new , and not quite sure the direction I am going......I am trying to structure my log book to satisfy both the 135 and ATP Requirements so that it is done no matter which route I end up...
And I know what you mean. I just started a new logbook; on of the big pro ones with extra blank columns. I use the existing XC column for 50 mi with a landing, then have 2 more for airport to airport (135) and 50mi with no landing (ATP). I also created another PIC column where I log time as the "legal PIC", and not just an extra guy whose in the plane and authorized to log PIC (example: when I'm instructing a person whose qualified and current in the aircraft and he is "the real PIC").
02-05-2013, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeB525
You have to put wheels on pavement for it to be 135 XC. It's possible to do a touch and go then go into the missed if you want.
And I know what you mean. I just started a new logbook; on of the big pro ones with extra blank columns. I use the existing XC column for 50 mi with a landing, then have 2 more for airport to airport (135) and 50mi with no landing (ATP). I also created another PIC column where I log time as the "legal PIC", and not just an extra guy whose in the plane and authorized to log PIC (example: when I'm instructing a person whose qualified and current in the aircraft and he is "the real PIC").
And I know what you mean. I just started a new logbook; on of the big pro ones with extra blank columns. I use the existing XC column for 50 mi with a landing, then have 2 more for airport to airport (135) and 50mi with no landing (ATP). I also created another PIC column where I log time as the "legal PIC", and not just an extra guy whose in the plane and authorized to log PIC (example: when I'm instructing a person whose qualified and current in the aircraft and he is "the real PIC").
02-06-2013, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by word302
Are you trying to say that when giving instruction to a rated pilot, that he has more right to log PIC than you as the instructor do? When you give instruction you consider yourself "just an extra guy whose in the plane"? You, my friend, are doing it wrong.
04-06-2014, 01:38 AM
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Thread Revival - Question about Part 135 minimums
The new restricted ATP minimums allow military pilots to obtain a restricted ATP with 750 hours of flight time, but Part 135 minimums require 1,200 for PIC. Does this mean a restricted ATP holder can serve as SIC for an airline, but cannot serve as PIC for a Part 135 operator?
I may have a lead on a corporate job, part 135, and if I am reading the regs correctly, I qualify for SIC with just a commercial and IFR currency. Would a type rating checkride with a corporate operator serve as the ATP checkride? I've heard of guys who get the King Air type rating in the military at a civilian training school being hooked up with an examiner to sign off the ATP, would the same be available with an initial type for a corporate operator?
The new restricted ATP minimums allow military pilots to obtain a restricted ATP with 750 hours of flight time, but Part 135 minimums require 1,200 for PIC. Does this mean a restricted ATP holder can serve as SIC for an airline, but cannot serve as PIC for a Part 135 operator?
I may have a lead on a corporate job, part 135, and if I am reading the regs correctly, I qualify for SIC with just a commercial and IFR currency. Would a type rating checkride with a corporate operator serve as the ATP checkride? I've heard of guys who get the King Air type rating in the military at a civilian training school being hooked up with an examiner to sign off the ATP, would the same be available with an initial type for a corporate operator?
04-16-2014, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseAg03
Thread Revival - Question about Part 135 minimums
The new restricted ATP minimums allow military pilots to obtain a restricted ATP with 750 hours of flight time, but Part 135 minimums require 1,200 for PIC. Does this mean a restricted ATP holder can serve as SIC for an airline, but cannot serve as PIC for a Part 135 operator?
I may have a lead on a corporate job, part 135, and if I am reading the regs correctly, I qualify for SIC with just a commercial and IFR currency. Would a type rating checkride with a corporate operator serve as the ATP checkride? I've heard of guys who get the King Air type rating in the military at a civilian training school being hooked up with an examiner to sign off the ATP, would the same be available with an initial type for a corporate operator?
The new restricted ATP minimums allow military pilots to obtain a restricted ATP with 750 hours of flight time, but Part 135 minimums require 1,200 for PIC. Does this mean a restricted ATP holder can serve as SIC for an airline, but cannot serve as PIC for a Part 135 operator?
I may have a lead on a corporate job, part 135, and if I am reading the regs correctly, I qualify for SIC with just a commercial and IFR currency. Would a type rating checkride with a corporate operator serve as the ATP checkride? I've heard of guys who get the King Air type rating in the military at a civilian training school being hooked up with an examiner to sign off the ATP, would the same be available with an initial type for a corporate operator?
As to the difference between a restricted ATP and part 135 PIC mins...that's why it's called a restricted ATP. For part 135 SIC read, yes, all you need is a commercial rating with instrument privileges in category and class.
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