Cape Air
#1741
New Hire
Joined APC: Aug 2017
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I’m not sure I see how a first year captain with Cape Air can earn that kind of money. Assuming you upgrade to captain in one year, the pay is still $18.67/duty hour. On a 40 hour work week, that’s $38,833 annually. So this means - and I’m assuming here - that captains are working 60 or so duty hours a week plus some sort of incentive pay to make anywhere near 80k/year. Is that correct?
#1742
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 37
I have one concern about Cape Air - the promisorry note.
I am fully aware the pay at Cape isn’t that great; no regional pays well. However I am concerned with the organization requiring you to sign a promisorry note holding you liable for the $35,000 training costs. The terms of the contract state that that you are liable to repay that should you quit or have your employment terminated with cause prior to completing one year as a captain with Cape Air. Those are pretty high stakes considering the organization has, I think, a 50% wash out rates for new first officers. Fail checkrides or in some other manner disappoint the firm you’re now liable for a lot of money. I also worry about the company delaying your upgrade to captain for asinine reasons so they can keep you tethered there. Do we have any Cape employees who can comment on this?
I am fully aware the pay at Cape isn’t that great; no regional pays well. However I am concerned with the organization requiring you to sign a promisorry note holding you liable for the $35,000 training costs. The terms of the contract state that that you are liable to repay that should you quit or have your employment terminated with cause prior to completing one year as a captain with Cape Air. Those are pretty high stakes considering the organization has, I think, a 50% wash out rates for new first officers. Fail checkrides or in some other manner disappoint the firm you’re now liable for a lot of money. I also worry about the company delaying your upgrade to captain for asinine reasons so they can keep you tethered there. Do we have any Cape employees who can comment on this?
Pay isn’t the greatest as a FO but I’ve already seen OT just in ground school. Also they are in the process of a new contract for pay.
As for the contract, I figure it will take about a yr to get from 500 to the 1500. Now don’t forget that you upgrade to PIC at 1200. Then a yr from 1500 I will have around 2500hrs and a Atp. From there you could go direct entry captain flying a jet for a regional with a hefty bonus. Oh and the guys that are upgrading get through quick as they have priority trading over us pilots in training. A buddy of mine was here just over a week upgrading to captain.
I will admit I had my hesitations, but now I can say I wish I could have gotten here sooner. Cape is a great company and they treat their employees like gold. Yes you will work your butt off, but you will get great experience here that will further you in any flying career (especially airline) you choose to go to after.
#1744
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 189
Pilots based in Billings typically overnight in the outstations they get put up in a hotel and I believe its $36 in per diem. Pilots based else where can expect to be home every night.
#1745
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Joined APC: Aug 2017
Posts: 4
You're typically at home in your base unless you're out in montana, then you have overnights at the hotel which company pays for. If you ever get stuck outside your home base they will set you up with a hotel room, transportation, and per diem. I'm probably a minority but my first year as a FO/PIC I made over 43k.
#1746
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 79
Are the schedules similar to regionals to where I can show up Day 1. Fly all day, overnight in outstation. Fly all day 2 etc etc until Day 4? Or would I need to get a crashpad in Billings? Also, GDV is only about a 2.5 hour drive for me, are there flights from there early enough to jumpseat into BIL to pick up the trip?
#1747
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 189
So for someone who wants BIL (like me), but have to commute there (by commute I mean drive 450 miles or take a DL flight through MSP or UA through DEN), is this feasible?
Are the schedules similar to regionals to where I can show up Day 1. Fly all day, overnight in outstation. Fly all day 2 etc etc until Day 4? Or would I need to get a crashpad in Billings? Also, GDV is only about a 2.5 hour drive for me, are there flights from there early enough to jumpseat into BIL to pick up the trip?
Are the schedules similar to regionals to where I can show up Day 1. Fly all day, overnight in outstation. Fly all day 2 etc etc until Day 4? Or would I need to get a crashpad in Billings? Also, GDV is only about a 2.5 hour drive for me, are there flights from there early enough to jumpseat into BIL to pick up the trip?
#1748
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 226
Received an offer today! May 29th class. I'm real close to PIC mins and would probably FO for 2-3 months just to build my XC time up. I'm still weighing options and have some other offers too. Could someone please give me a rundown comparison between Cape Air, Tradewind, Boutique, PlaneSense, and Exec Airshare?
#1749
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
Received an offer today! May 29th class. I'm real close to PIC mins and would probably FO for 2-3 months just to build my XC time up. I'm still weighing options and have some other offers too. Could someone please give me a rundown comparison between Cape Air, Tradewind, Boutique, PlaneSense, and Exec Airshare?
Cape Air (second hand info): Multi time, but it's piston time so no turbine PIC. Pretty basic equipment. Never heard a bad thing about their operations. PIC time counts towards your 121 PIC requirements. They fly a lot.
Tradewind: Turbine PIC time, complex plane with real multi-crew training and environment, PIC time does not count for 121 PIC. Fly a lot. Awesome company. Better pay than Cape. Choose your base etc right and company pays for your housing for a big chunk of the year.
PlaneSense/EAS/Boutique, no clue.
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