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Old 09-11-2009 | 03:04 PM
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I worked in SJU over the winter and some pax were a little scared but if u had a good captain they were relaxed. Its a whole different kind of pax and flying down there, everyones on vacation and happy to be there. It was a great time in the south and I wish they would get turbines so I could go back in a heartbeat!!
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Old 09-11-2009 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TPROP4ever
I'm curious what the flying public really thinks, I hear "OMG thats a small plane" about the 1900 all the time", wonder about the comments when they see the 402.... Is 9K after all 6 cities or just the four? Also what happens to the other 4, if DOT votes Cape into these two cities. The only other carrier that bid all 6 cities, ( that I'm aware of ) is 3M and they wont do less than all 6, its just not cost effective (their proposal was all or nothing). Do the other 4 get re proposed, or start the process over again? FWIW I liked the proposal for a darkhorse company named Air Technologies, and proposed KA200's, and Chicago as a hub. But in the end, is anyone REALLY going to be able to get codeshare for this, with STL as a hub?
Wondering how this will all pan out.
They whine, complain, say they're scared, but in the end they buckle up tight and go flying. 9 times out of 10 they come back again after realizing a 402 isn't as scary as they thought it'd be.

Looking at the EAS proposal, we bid on 4 cities, but will take a minimum of 2. Not sure about anything with the codeshare, though. I bet something will be worked out.
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Old 09-11-2009 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by flyboyPH
It was a great time in the south and I wish they would get turbines so I could go back in a heartbeat!!
Bring the ATR to the carib...joking eagle would put us out before the planes even arrive
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Old 09-11-2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NightIP
They whine, complain, say they're scared, but in the end they buckle up tight and go flying. 9 times out of 10 they come back again after realizing a 402 isn't as scary as they thought it'd be.

Looking at the EAS proposal, we bid on 4 cities, but will take a minimum of 2. Not sure about anything with the codeshare, though. I bet something will be worked out.
Yes, I noticed that you had proposed two minimum for you guys, I was just curious what will happen to the other four, or actually two ( the ones that you didnt bid), because I dont believe we are prepared to take them...of course. Another question I've been wondering, do you guys run two pilot 121 in the 402's for scheduled EAS service?? I had always thought ( albeit wrong I'm told) that you were strickly 135 ops?
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Old 09-11-2009 | 08:44 PM
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Cape Air has two certificates: 121 for the ATR ops in Guam and 135 (single pilot) for all 402 ops, regardless of subsidization.
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Old 09-11-2009 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by miller
Cape Air has two certificates: 121 for the ATR ops in Guam and 135 (single pilot) for all 402 ops, regardless of subsidization.
Ok mabye I missed something, so you run scheduled on 135? Also are the 402s certified for ice?
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Old 09-12-2009 | 05:26 AM
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Yes and yes.
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Old 09-12-2009 | 05:27 AM
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I would assume they have to be, considering how much flying they do out of Albany to Massena/Watertown/... (I always forget the 3rd.. Og something).

Regarding Decatur, a Fortune 50 company based (#27 on the list) in Decatur told the airport they are not interested in 402 service to St. Louis - they won't be able to get their employees on board when they are used to CRJs/ERJ/717s out of Bloomington, only a 45 minute drive.

Cape Air said they need at least 2 of the markets, and with Marion & Cape Girardeau's support, it looks like they're in for something. CGI ops will be interesting, their FBO is also called "Cape Air"
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Old 09-12-2009 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by travelnate
That Jetblue codeshare will be of great value in St. Louis... and has anyone failed to mention that Continental is out of flight numbers & not expanding their codeshare w/ Cape?
The CO codeshare is only RSW-EYW, and GUM-ROT-SPN.

The B6 codeshare is only BOS-PVC, HYA, ACK, & MVY.

But through check-in with AA is brand new this summer and won't hurt traffic in STL.
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Old 09-12-2009 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TPROP4ever
Another question I've been wondering, do you guys run two pilot 121 in the 402's for scheduled EAS service?? I had always thought ( albeit wrong I'm told) that you were strickly 135 ops?
(Mostly) single-pilot, and as others have said, we're scheduled 135 on all of our routes. We're the "commuter" in "Commuter and On Demand Operations" that's the header of Part 135. There aren't too many scheduled 135 companies left, but there are a few left after the FAA forced the turbine regionals to swap to 121 in the 1990s.

Hey robthree, add RUT to the B6 codeshare, too. Not that it matters.
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