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Old 02-03-2017 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00
Add about 70 pilots per year outside attrition.
Ok, adding 70 pilots will not staff 24-30 new A/C this year.
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Old 02-03-2017 | 11:18 AM
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Actually it will since most of those frames are replacing DHC8
2 things happening simultaneously- growth AND transition from all TP small town (SBY, MDT, ROA) airline to all Jet big hub (PHL) airline

Can you say massive movement?
Can you also say growing pains?
They go together on the bleeding edge
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Old 02-03-2017 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
Ok, adding 70 pilots will not staff 24-30 new A/C this year.
That is 70 leaving for other opportunities. The 280-300 incoming will fill the need.
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Old 02-03-2017 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00
Add about 70 pilots per year outside attrition.
Where did you get those attrition numbers?
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Old 02-03-2017 | 12:45 PM
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Nova, under the SSP, guys have been sitting in a "pool" for 6-18 months. Average seems to be a year.

With the new DGI that starts soon, once you get the nod, you go to training in the next class. No waiting around for months. But that's at LEAST 2 years away...
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Old 02-03-2017 | 12:57 PM
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Until Endeavor gets a true flow, there is absolutely no sense in comparing the two.
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Old 02-03-2017 | 02:35 PM
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Anyone who is counting on either a flow or the DGI isn't going to have a very productive life. Yes, they are nice today, but when the market crashes, as it will sooner rather than later, you better hope your butt is parked at a place you enjoy going to work. I think PDT and EDV are both good places to be for a long time.

As the bigger airlines start needing more pilots, I think both the flow and the DGI will become moot points except for a select few people.

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Until Endeavor gets a true flow, there is absolutely no sense in comparing the two.
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Old 02-03-2017 | 02:39 PM
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You weren't. Lots of good points here, and for sure, things are looking great for PDT, which is awesome for you guys. You deserve it. I hope other companies follow suit soon, and all of us are making the money and having the decent contracts we all struggle so hard to achieve. I've sent a couple of guys your way lately, because of the great things PDT can offer them.

No other industry fails to reward experience like this one does. If you're a doctor or a lawyer with 10 years of experience, and move to a new job, your new starting salary is commensurate with your skills. Here, you start at the bottom, as if you had just graduated flight school yesterday. It's sad.

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Thanks for clarifying did not want to short change anyone
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Old 02-03-2017 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Anyone who is counting on either a flow or the DGI isn't going to have a very productive life. Yes, they are nice today, but when the market crashes, as it will sooner rather than later, you better hope your butt is parked at a place you enjoy going to work. I think PDT and EDV are both good places to be for a long time.

As the bigger airlines start needing more pilots, I think both the flow and the DGI will become moot points except for a select few people.
Is the market crashing info coming from MSNBC? How the heck do you know the market is going to crash? FYI a Flow would have saved your arse during 9/11 and the high oil crisis. You must be a new guy? You see it's a cycle. Once the dust settles, a flow gives you security!
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Old 02-03-2017 | 04:13 PM
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I know people that know things. The downturn is coming, as you said, it's cyclic. I don't follow such trends, but I know people who do, and I trust their expertise. One guy was predicting 2007/08 in 2006. He was right.

What is a MSNBC?

Nothing saved me during 9/11, I had to choose another route, and so am just now getting back into the airline gig. The low oil crisis cost me my other job a while back. Things ebb & flow, for sure. Just hope you are where you can be happy when the low points arrive, as they will.

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Is the market crashing info coming from MSNBC? How the heck do you know the market is going to crash? FYI a Flow would have saved your arse during 9/11 and the high oil crisis. You must be a new guy? You see it's a cycle. Once the dust settles, a flow gives you security!
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