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Old 03-21-2021 | 07:31 AM
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New here: I applied to PSA about a week ago...2 days ago I received an email from “PSA Recruiting” requesting that I fill out detailed breakdown of my hours.

Anyone here know if this is a good sign? What have others experienced as to getting a phone call for an interview? Or is this nothing to get excited about?
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Old 03-21-2021 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cleared4reserve
Do we need to apply on the website as well or just airline apps?
I believe PSA's website is actually preferred.
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Old 03-21-2021 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Crimson37Roger
Could always apply elsewhere off the street.
They could, but the issue being they'd have to pay back a substantial amount of money to envoy. Between 5,000-15,000 dollars, put yourself in the shoes of someone who just graduated college getting paid $20 an hour to flight instruct dealing with the burden of impending student loan debt. Unless you have the financial means to pay back that money you're at the whim of AAG, now to add to that imagine some of the cadets get an email telling them they can go to PSA and you hear absolutely nothing. Meanwhile all these other regionals are starting to hire, and envoy doesn't even tell you but tells the people that they're sending over to PSA that it will likely be the end of the year until envoy hires, so here's an opportunity to fly sooner.
I know of a few people in this exact situation right now.

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Old 03-21-2021 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CptnDave
They could, but the issue being they'd have to pay back a substantial amount of money to envoy. Between 5,000-15,000 dollars, put yourself in the shoes of someone who just graduated college getting paid $20 an hour to flight instruct dealing with the burden of impending student loan debt. Unless you have the financial means to pay back that money you're at the whim of AAG, now to add to that imagine some of the cadets get an email telling them they can go to PSA and you hear absolutely nothing. Meanwhile all these other regionals are starting to hire, and envoy doesn't even tell you but tells the people that they're sending over to PSA that it will likely be the end of the year until envoy hires, so here's an opportunity to fly sooner.
I know of a few people in this exact situation right now.
i know people in this situation too. Nobody forced them to sign up for the cadet program and take bonus money. They entered a contract to fly at a company and shouldn’t expect anything else in return. If they’re fortunate enough to receive another offer, great. But they wanted to fly for envoy.
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Old 03-21-2021 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CptnDave
They could, but the issue being they'd have to pay back a substantial amount of money to envoy. Between 5,000-15,000 dollars, put yourself in the shoes of someone who just graduated college getting paid $20 an hour to flight instruct dealing with the burden of impending student loan debt. Unless you have the financial means to pay back that money you're at the whim of AAG, now to add to that imagine some of the cadets get an email telling them they can go to PSA and you hear absolutely nothing. Meanwhile all these other regionals are starting to hire, and envoy doesn't even tell you but tells the people that they're sending over to PSA that it will likely be the end of the year until envoy hires, so here's an opportunity to fly sooner.
I know of a few people in this exact situation right now.

That is a tough boat. Just thinking outside the box here... Is PSA still doing the new hire bonus? If so, this is a gamble but again just outside the box thinking, take the bonus and sign the 2 year commitment. Once you finish check ride take the money you get from PSA bonus and payback Envoy.

Just because I'm curious Envoy is telling and/or sending people over to PSA?
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Old 03-21-2021 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDriver900
That is a tough boat. Just thinking outside the box here... Is PSA still doing the new hire bonus? If so, this is a gamble but again just outside the box thinking, take the bonus and sign the 2 year commitment. Once you finish check ride take the money you get from PSA bonus and payback Envoy.

Just because I'm curious Envoy is telling and/or sending people over to PSA?
Yes Envoy sent out an email to some cadets about an opportunity to fly for PSA, should they choose to do that they’d be absolved of all obligations to pay envoy back for anything they’ve received. However my point was that some cadets have their ATP mins as well and were not extended that opportunity, seems to have been based on seniority in the program.
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Old 03-21-2021 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Crimson37Roger
i know people in this situation too. Nobody forced them to sign up for the cadet program and take bonus money. They entered a contract to fly at a company and shouldn’t expect anything else in return. If they’re fortunate enough to receive another offer, great. But they wanted to fly for envoy.
You’re right they entered that contract to fly at a company, however they never got the opportunity to do so. And now other regionals are hiring not to mention other Wholly owned regionals and envoy doesn’t have any intentions on training them anytime soon supposedly. But some of them can go to PSA, as if they were already PSA cadets and others were not extended that opportunity yet, but hopefully they will be.
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Old 03-21-2021 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CptnDave
Yes Envoy sent out an email to some cadets about an opportunity to fly for PSA, should they choose to do that they’d be absolved of all obligations to pay envoy back for anything they’ve received. However my point was that some cadets have their ATP mins as well and were not extended that opportunity, seems to have been based on seniority in the program.

Ah I see now. Thank you for clearing that up.
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Old 03-21-2021 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CptnDave
Yes Envoy sent out an email to some cadets about an opportunity to fly for PSA, should they choose to do that they’d be absolved of all obligations to pay envoy back for anything they’ve received. However my point was that some cadets have their ATP mins as well and were not extended that opportunity, seems to have been based on seniority in the program.
As I understood it although they would no longer be obligated to Envoy, they would be obligated to PSA instead.
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Old 03-21-2021 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jdub2
As I understood it although they would no longer be obligated to Envoy, they would be obligated to PSA instead.
Yea but they’d be FO’s at PSA instead of cadets at envoy, it’s a win win situation for both party’s, PSA gets new hires that they don’t have to pay bonuses too, and the cadets get to be FO’s sooner than later. I’m pretty sure the envoy cadets already have been vetted and background checked too so they save time and money on that front too maybe.
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