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#701
Do they have more simulators? This is going to be interesting. Can anyone achieve that? I am going to bring the popcorn.
#702
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Joined: Jun 2021
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The general concept is
1) line bidding. The company publishes 100 schedules and 100 pilots bid. #1 gets anything he wants and #100 gets what is left
2) performance(?) based scheduling. 100 people tell a computer what they want and it builds schedules that meet your preferences as much as it can
Companies like #2 because training and vacation mess up #1 and require more reserves to backfill the holes
either system can be heaven or hell… it’s all in the details.
PSA currently has a hybrid heaven-hell system where half the pilot group (through SAP) can pretty much set their schedule every month. Never want to work Christmas? you don’t have to. Meanwhile the bottom half of the seniority list is on reserve so that the company can cover the entire Christmas schedule with 4 lineholders working.
in this context “PBS” means a new scheduling system. There will be winners and losers. Who? How much? Those are the sticky questions that have held it up for years. So who knows what will happen.
1) line bidding. The company publishes 100 schedules and 100 pilots bid. #1 gets anything he wants and #100 gets what is left
2) performance(?) based scheduling. 100 people tell a computer what they want and it builds schedules that meet your preferences as much as it can
Companies like #2 because training and vacation mess up #1 and require more reserves to backfill the holes
either system can be heaven or hell… it’s all in the details.
PSA currently has a hybrid heaven-hell system where half the pilot group (through SAP) can pretty much set their schedule every month. Never want to work Christmas? you don’t have to. Meanwhile the bottom half of the seniority list is on reserve so that the company can cover the entire Christmas schedule with 4 lineholders working.
in this context “PBS” means a new scheduling system. There will be winners and losers. Who? How much? Those are the sticky questions that have held it up for years. So who knows what will happen.
For instance, lets say that you only want to fly commutable trips with overnights in Florida. When it is your turn in order of seniority, if there are enough trips that start late on the first day, end early on the last day, and have lots of Florida overnights, then you get a schedule that has all of that. If not, then it moves down the list of your preferences to your next criteria.
Think of PBS like posting a list of 10 different things that you want, in order. Your dream schedule. The first one is usually very specific, the last layer is usually very general. The first layer is usually something like "I want trip number 1001, 2103, 3152, and 4573". If those are available, they are yours and you have your dream schedule for the month. If that isn't available, then you move to layer 2. Maybe that layer is like the commutable/Florida thing above. Then the third layer is commutable trips but no Florida overnights, but you want a certain few days off, and so on. You normally get 8-10 different layers for preference each month.
#703
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Joined: Jun 2017
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exactly. After the first month there will be a 6 month wait for sims.
#705
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#706
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Joined: Feb 2020
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And just wait till when we lose the effectiveness of SAP that we have today, switch to PBS and require a lesser amount of pilots to staff the same amount of aircraft/flying. Seat movement will stagnate and QoL will plummet. Less days off and less flexibility. The flying we get from Daddy Doug has no sign of changing. The trips will continue to be mostly poor. There will be ZERO reason to come here unless you live in base with no other options. Kind of a Mesa scenario at that point.
#707
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2015
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Oh WOW what a novel concept - get your hours and get out !!!!!
You mean by just working a couple years and throwing my app out a MAJOR will pick me up just like that !!!
Golly gee willikers Mister that's a great idea !!!
You mean by just working a couple years and throwing my app out a MAJOR will pick me up just like that !!!
Golly gee willikers Mister that's a great idea !!!
#708
#709
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Joined: Oct 2017
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But I agree with Chris's sentiment in that time is on our side, the contract negotiations are around corner and will drag out for an extended period of time. Supply and demand will quickly and robustly return to being in our favor. Hopefully our union leaders can make some valuable improvements. I'm just not in favor of giving the company any concessions earlier than necessary. And please believe, PBS is a gigantic concession.
Don't hook that MV Saltboi. You don't want to lose the privilege of choosing your next stepping stone.
#710
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Joined: Feb 2020
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Go to a LCC for a year and then Major if you have to.. I know people who have done that… get a little creative vs waiting on the FLoW
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